J I agree with Nick. I have a Norvice and I can't see how this works on it by spinning the base. Mine is attached to a piece of Corian. It is great for weight and working but I can't see turning it. I must be missing something.
Mike On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Niclas Runarsson <niclas.runars...@soderhamn.com> wrote: > I'm not sure we're talking about the same weave here anymore. I thought > 'Aaaah... with a Norvise maybe' (which offers more space under the hook than > a bobbin cradle does). > > So I tried "simulating" a Norvise setup using two vises... the second one > closer to me, just holding the thread. But it still doesn't work. You get to > Step 4 (on my SBS)... but when you then, on Step 5, are to lay back the > right hand strand over the hook, you have to go with your right hand between > your left and the hook. You can't go with your right hand over the hook and > under your left here, because there you will have the thread closing the > door. On the Step 5 picture, it would be like closing the way between the > hook eye and the bottom of the picture... which needs to be open for your > right hand to get that strand over the hook, but under the left hand strand. > > I just can't see a way to get around this without letting go of the strands. > > This is just like wrapping a material having a waiting thread in front of > it... with the bobbin hanging under the hook. It can be done because you > still can get your hand between the bobbin and the table. But when hanging > it up (on Norvise rod or regular bobbin cradle), the "one hand wrapping" > doesn't work anymore, since the hook eye technically has been connected to > the back of the hook (through thread, rod, bench, vise). > Using this weave with a bobbin hanging under the hook is very uncomfortable, > but still possible. But when the door between the hook eye and the hook > bend is closed, then it's impossible without having to let go of materials > during the weaving process. > > At least this is what I have come up with after experimenting now... > > /Nick > > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För J > Balmer > Skickat: den 13 februari 2009 00:35 > Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments? > > The Nor Vise has a vertical rod opposite the vise jaws w/ a button on the > side. When you hang the bobbin over the button, the thread is straight out > from the hook, leaving both hands free to manipulate material. Also makes > dubbing easy, because you spin the vise head. For your weaving process, all > I have to do is turn the pedestal that the vise is on sideways. > > J > ________________________________ > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Niclas Runarsson > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 11:46 AM > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments? > > If you mean hanging it up using the bobbin cradle, then the cradle's > horizontal part under the jaws, will block the way completely and you won't > be able to get any material under the hook. > > /Nick > > -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- > Från: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] För J > Balmer > Skickat: den 12 februari 2009 16:51 > Till: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Ämne: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments? > > Don't have the bobbin hanging directly below the hook, have the thread > straight out from the hook similar to the way the Nor vise is setup, w/ the > bobbin closer to your chest instead of off to the right. It might be a > little more awkward, but it would make finishing the weave easier. Think of > it as though the hook shank extended out beyond the eye; you're crossing > under the thread the same way you're already crossing under the hook. > > J > ________________________________ > From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf > Of Niclas (Gmail) > Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 9:30 AM > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Subject: [VFB] Re: Step-by-steps... comments? > > Not sure if I got you right there, but if you mean having the thread tied in > during the weaving process, this is hard... since one hand will be moving > back and forth under the hook and the bobbin will be hanging in the way. > Holding both strands in one hand and wrapping with the other when securing > it, is on the other hand nothing different from what I mean... once the > thread has been tied in again. > > /Nick > > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 3:14 PM, J Balmer <jbal...@a5.com> wrote: >> >> I liked both, the parallel weave in particular. One way to solve the end >> of weave process is to have the thread tied in where you end ahead of time, >> hold both strands of woven material in one hand & wrap thread w/ the other. >> As to the touch dubbing, I'll try it on smaller hooks. Not sure why, but >> I've gotten away from waxing thread when dubbing. This would save some time. >> >> J >> ________________________________ >> From: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] On >> Behalf Of Niclas Runarsson >> Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2009 6:23 AM >> To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com >> Subject: [VFB] Step-by-steps... comments? >> >> I have made two technique step-by-steps, Parallel Weave and Touchdubbing. >> It's online but has not been linked to from the main site yet. I thought I >> would "fish" some on the list first (and with 'fish', I don't mean just >> from you, Allan). >> >> Anyone having any comments on them? >> >> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/parallelweave_steps.htm >> http://www.swedneckflyfishing.com/touchdubbing_steps.htm >> >> /Nick > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
