Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap thinking, Mr. Di
Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking:

Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 2009' at the
(Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now I have
seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an
example in the future, when it's time for the old "A swap isn't a contest.
It's all about effort." explanation.

As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. Most of the talk is
about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of the tyers are
advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie tiny flies
themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it "easy" and set the bar
at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even fill the
list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 participants
was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to buy hooks
to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where to
find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a
#20, as "large" as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This
#20 tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing
it a new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought
#22's... as "practice hooks", so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come
as a shock. All this talk about buying hooks" was really nice to see. It was
new, but they were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had
some problems. But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of
them got himself new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! "Give
up??? - No way!!!" LOL

This turned out to be more than checking out the midge interest. It also
became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it wasn't any "No,
I can't do good enough to swap." Here we had some TRUE swap thinking: "I'm
not afraid... it's effort that counts.", "It might not be the best... but it
sure will be fun." The swap has been going on for two months now and the
talk in the thread is the same: "Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW it
was fun!", "WHY haven't I tried this before???" etc. Some of these guys are
guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said
things like "I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size"
when I've asked "Why not try it yourself?".

It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap thread (and I
have read it more than once... just for the fun of it).

When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same effort from
everyone will make noone give less than the other.

/Nick




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From: phxflyt...@cox.net
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:40:39 -0700



  Peggy:

  I should have my tying skills up a little higher then they are now so I
would like to try this swap.
  I'm not sure yet what I will tie but I sure would like to be in it, with
these great tiers.
  I hope no one will be disapointed with my tying.


  Thank you,
  Alan Di Somma

  Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

  Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
    ----- Original Message -----
    From: Peggy Brenner
    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
    Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:01 PM
    Subject: [VFB] Catskill Dry fly update


    And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all the famous
Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due till
December.  And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small
dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers.

    1 Peggy B  Condor
    2 Neville Gosling
    3 George Vincent
    4 Michael Bliss
    5
    6
    7
    8
    9
    10


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    Peggy Brenner


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