Try to copy the address and then paste if in your web browser.
I am using Internet Explorer.


Thank you,
Alan Di Somma 

Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his tail.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anthony Spezio 
  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:12 AM
  Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


        How do I open this.
        Tony

        --- On Tue, 7/28/09, Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net> wrote:


          From: Alan Di Somma <phxflyt...@cox.net>
          Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
          To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
          Date: Tuesday, July 28, 2009, 9:03 PM


          Did you enjoy her tying?
          I did.


          Thank you,
          Alan Di Somma 

          Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

          Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag his 
tail.
            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Joyce 
            To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
            Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 6:28 PM
            Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


            thanks for the link. Joyce


              
http://www.ienner.com/pages/_flyfishing_pf,html/flyfish_dette1.html


              I remember watching Lee Wulff tie his Royal Wulff at one of our 
club meeting a long time ago, without any tools except his hands and watching 
Mary Dettes tie reminded me of that. Quite an experience....


              Thank you,
              Alan Di Somma 

              Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

              Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him wag 
his tail.
                ----- Original Message ----- 
                From: Joyce 
                To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
                Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 4:45 PM
                Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


                Alan where did you find the video of Mary Dettes tying? I'd 
love to learn from it. Thanks. Joyce
                  ----- Original Message ----- 
                  From: Alan Di Somma 
                  To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
                  Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 9:03 AM
                  Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


                  Thanks Nick.
                  I haven't tied since the SowBug in 2004 so I am a little 
rusty to say the least.
                  I have only tied about 15 dozen flies the past month trying 
to get some flies tied for my trip to Alaska in Sept.
                  I have been getting better and faster and they are looking 
better the more I tie.
                  The biggest problem is getting the proportions correct.

                  Peggy's swap is for Catskill Dry Flies. That is a whole 
nother ball game.
                  Tiny upright wings and heavy hackle really gets you to be 
exact.

                  I watched a video of Mary Dettes tying and she does not use a 
bobbin or whip finisher.
                  I plan on using both and a very strong magnifying glass to 
even see that tiny a hook.

                  I actually have some 28's but I would never think of tying a 
dry fly on a hook that small.
                  At least not for a couple of more years of tying.

                  Thanks for the encouraging words, and yes I will do my best 
no matter what kind or size of swap I am in.


                  Thank you,
                  Alan Di Somma 

                  Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

                  Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make him 
wag his tail.
                    ----- Original Message ----- 
                    From: Niclas Runarsson 
                    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
                    Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:29 AM
                    Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update


                    Hoping for noone to get disappointed is not real swap 
thinking, Mr. Di Somma. Let me tell you about some real swap thinking:

                    Right this moment, I'm hosting 'On the Edge To Nothing Swap 
2009' at the (Swedish) 'Edge FlyFishing Forum'... size #20 and smaller. And now 
I have seen some true swap thinking. This has become something I will use as an 
example in the future, when it's time for the old "A swap isn't a contest. It's 
all about effort." explanation.

                    As a fly-fishing forum, this one differs a lot from VFB. 
Most of the talk is about fly-fishing and not really much about tying. Few of 
the tyers are advanced tyers. I wanted to see how much they really liked to tie 
tiny flies themselves so I invited them to a swap, but I took it "easy" and set 
the bar at #20... with a three months tying time (partly to be able to even 
fill the list). It took me by surprise, to say the least. The list of 12 
participants was filled in less than 24 hrs... and most of the guys went out to 
buy hooks to even be able to participate. (A few of them didn't even know where 
to find such small hooks when signing up.).Only one of them chose to tie on a 
#20, as "large" as possible. The rest went down to #24 and smaller. (This #20 
tyer later had to drop out... but less than 15 minutes after announcing it a 
new guy stepped in, coming in with a #28 PT nymph.) One of them bought #22's... 
as "practice hooks", so the #26's that he also bought wouldn't come as a shock. 
All this talk about buying hooks" was really nice to see. It was new, but they 
were ready to try. But it didn't stop with hooks. Two guys had some problems. 
But instead of dropping out or going for larger hooks, one of them got himself 
new glasses... and another bought a new vise!!! "Give up??? - No way!!!" LOL

                    This turned out to be more than checking out the midge 
interest. It also became a check how people felt about swapping... and here it 
wasn't any "No, I can't do good enough to swap." Here we had some TRUE swap 
thinking: "I'm not afraid... it's effort that counts.", "It might not be the 
best... but it sure will be fun." The swap has been going on for two months now 
and the talk in the thread is the same: "Holy smoke, this was fiddly... but WOW 
it was fun!", "WHY haven't I tried this before???" etc. Some of these guys are 
guys who have complimented the midges I've posted earlier and then said things 
like "I wouldn't be able to tie in the thread on a hook that size" when I've 
asked "Why not try it yourself?".

                    It really gives me a warm feeling reading through the swap 
thread (and I have read it more than once... just for the fun of it).

                    When you WANT to give... then you're ready to swap. Same 
effort from everyone will make noone give less than the other. 

                    /Nick




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                    From: phxflyt...@cox.net
                    To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
                    Subject: [VFB] Re: Catskill Dry fly update
                    Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2009 07:40:39 -0700



                      Peggy:

                      I should have my tying skills up a little higher then 
they are now so I would like to try this swap.
                      I'm not sure yet what I will tie but I sure would like to 
be in it, with these great tiers.
                      I hope no one will be disapointed with my tying.


                      Thank you,
                      Alan Di Somma 

                      Phoenix, Mexico's second largest city....

                      Money will buy a fine dog, but only kindness will make 
him wag his tail.
                        ----- Original Message ----- 
                        From: Peggy Brenner 
                        To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com 
                        Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 8:01 PM
                        Subject: [VFB] Catskill Dry fly update


                        And let's try our luck in the path Mary Dette and all 
the famous Catskill Dry Tyers laid for us with a swap, room for 10 and not due 
till December.  And to keep it a real stretch of our skills let's try for small 
dries, 16 and under, all levels of tyers.

                        1 Peggy B  Condor
                        2 Neville Gosling
                        3 George Vincent
                        4 Michael Bliss
                        5
                        6
                        7
                        8
                        9
                        10


                        -- 
                        Peggy Brenner


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