And to complicate things even more, Sometimes a First edition can have a #2 in
the Number line... Go figure.. I read that in the book called "collecting rare
and antiquarian books" or something like that.. I know I read it somewhere.
maybe it was on my box of cereal in the morning LOL.. Seriously, as has been
stated by Gary, sometimes it's hard to tell if you have a first edition, much
less a first PRINTING of a First EDITION.. And sometimes the SECOND edition can
be more valuable than the first.. I think that would have to do with the number
of books printed in a certain printing. If one printing was way less, the books
in that printing might be worth more that is the first edition had a million
books printed... Confused?? Good, cause I sure am LOL, Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: the smith's
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:19 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
There will be a string of numbers in sequence near the bottom of the page. so
if it were the number two it indicates a second printing. first printings will
have the number one in the string of numbers. keep your books out of direct sun
light, room temp around 72 degrees and humidity in the low 50s. put them up
right and never pack them in tight as this will cause the boards (covers) to
warp. If the book hangs over the edge of the shelf lay it flat so there is no
over hang.
Martink's books are very collectable just lay them flat.
An inscribed book seems to have more value because the person was present
when it was signed or was a person known to the author and he/she took more
time to personalize the book.
many times a signed book can be bought from a book dealer. Something I have
seen several times, and have one by Steve Raymond is a signed paste in card
with the authors signature on it.
For me to paste into his book! To me that is the height of laziness. Many
of my books are inscribed to Diane. I had them done that way as I expected her
to out live me. She passed away five years ago from ovarian cancer. The only
time the to will really increase the price is when the book is inscribed to
someone more or less famous.
Chuck is right about the dust jackets. Some collectors go to the extreme of
storing them separate and flattened.
Any sunlight will cause fading over time even indirect light, so pick your
site for your bookcases with care.
Gary S.
From: Pacres
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 03, 2010 12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary,
I recently picked up a copy of John Gierach's Signs of Life (signed), and a
few other hard to find books. From what I can tell, this is a first edition
(not sure how to find out about first printing). Anyhow just wondering for
book, how do you store them if they are worth a few bucks?
What about self published books like Mike Martinek's 2 volumes of streamer
patterns or some of the local fishing clubs booklets etc? I really just buy
what I like, but always try to find signed copies.
I'm also curious to know why a copy that is inscribed worth more than one
just simply signed. Curious because I though it may have been the opposite and
also that most of my signed book are inscribed, but mostly to other people.
Darren
On Sun, Jan 3, 2010 at 12:26 AM, Chuck Alexander
<chuckalexan...@hughes.net> wrote:
Gary: You got that right about Amazon seller (some of them) and grading
books. I have sold books for 25 years from flea markets, yard sales, to Amazon,
to Abe books, to half.com. And I always try to list mine one condition BELOW
what it actually is, so that the customer will probably be happy.On the other
hand, I have ordered books that sellers have graded as "Very good condition"
and I get the book, and I would not even list is as "Acceptable". Pages torn,
loose, or missing, writing in the book. Binding falling apart. Water stains
(that REALLY makes me mad when ppl omit those). And, like you said, the tobacco
smoke.. Most all my customers ask me about that. The closest I've ever come to
getting rid of it is to seal the book in a gallon zip lock bag and put in a cpl
scented dryer sheets. and leave them in the bag a few days. But I also put
paper towels between the book's covers and the dryer sheets so any moisture
from the sheets don't stain the cover or dust jacket. Oh, that's another one.
ppl not listing missing dust jackets. Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: the smith's
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Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Mel
Yes paid $150 for it . you make a good point. Technically they are
first editions. but, most collectors want first printings. There are allot of
fly fishing books offered on eBay by sellers with no idea has how to describe
the condition of their book. One of the first questions to ask the seller is
if the book comes from a smoke free home. It is near impossible to remove the
smell of tobacco smoke or mildew from a book.
Some of my favorite living writers are Nick Lyons, James Babb, Jerry
Dennis, John Gierach and William Tapply whom just passed on not long ago.
GaryS
fight crime...shoot back
----- Original Message -----
From: mel hocken
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
Gary
Some good info. I would like to add that newer books may be listed as
first edition but when you look at the print code you find the book to be a 2nd
3rd or even higher printing. These are not considered a true first edition. So
if you are buying a book be sure to do your research before paying premium
prices for a book which someone says is a first edition.
I have about 400 books in my library. Most are first editions and
many of the newer ones are signed. There are some great modern writers that I
thoroughly enjoy. If anyone is looking for some great off season reading I
highly recommend W.D. Wetherells three books. Gary is the 1992 book you are
refering to Starlight Creek Angling Society?
Regards
Mel
----- Original Message -----
From: the smith's
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Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I don't know if Jimmy D. got an answer to his questions about first
editions from one of the other sites he is on.
First let me start by saying I have been a book collector of fly
fishing books for close to 30 years and have acquired over 1300 different
titles. which are insured for $35,000.
first jimmy's books then some pointers of collecting.
Just Fishing 1st edition is 1932 by Penn Publishing. Knopf bought
the rights to the book and list it as their first edition. the true first ed is
1932
Trout Magic 1st ed 1974 if in very good condition with dust jacket
without any major tears. $40-$50
Fishless Days Angling Nights 1971 again the DJ is always important.
$40-$50
Fly rod Trouting $20-$30
Art Flicks master Fly-tying guide HB with DJ $50-$60
Soft cover books very very rarely go up in value.
Dust jackets are an important part of the book, sometimes giving
clues as to which printing.
Before the numbering system that you now find, it may be the only
clue as to a first or second printing.
Exlib books have very little value. Even limited editions lose
value because of the stamps and gluing of covers adding the decimal system
numbers to the spine etc.
Signed books have more value than none signed and inscribed to
someone even more.
Age has little to do with value. I have books form the late 1800s
that can be gotten today for $20.00. My book with the highest value was
published in1992 it is one of 150 copies.
Buying books as an investment is a very bad idea. Buy the writers
you like to read and collect their works.
Gary S
fight crime...shoot back
----- Original Message -----
From: Chuck Alexander
To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 7:09 PM
Subject: Re: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I have a first edition (with full number line) 1987 edition of
"Fly-Tying Methods" by Darrel Martin that somebody can "steal from me for only
$25 shipping INCLUDED... You can check the price range of this book on any
site on the net. It's in "Like New" condition with no writing, missing, loose,
or torn pages. hard cover with the binding tight and intact etc... Email me
OFFlist at chuckalexcan...@hughes.net Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Jimmy D. Moore
To: Virtual Fly Box ; Fly Fishing World ; Hill Country Fly
Fishers
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 5:02 PM
Subject: [VFB] First Edition Fly Fishing Books
I've never given any thought to collecting First Editions of
Fly Fishing books.
but after reading Jerry's post, I decided to go over my books
this afternoon.
I was surprised to find that I have 17 first editions, all from
distinguished fly
fishing authors/fishermen.I still have 50 or so books to check,
but this'll do
for now.
While I'm not interested in selling any of them at the present,
I'd like to have
a 'ball park" figure of what you think they might be worth.
Would I be able
to use an informal $ appraisal for insurance purposes? I have
my guns and
Classic Golf Clubs insured, so why not my books.
You can do this on List for I'm sure there are others who would
like
to know also.
Thanks,
JIMMY D
My First Editions
Trout Madness - Robert Traver, 1992, Northmont Publishing
Fishing W/ Ray Bergman 1970, Alfred Knopf
Fly Rod Trouting - Ed Shenk, 1989 Stackpole Books
Flick's New Streamside guide, 1969 Crown Publishing
Art Flick's Master Fly Tying Guide, 1972 Crown Publishing
Fishless Days, Angling Nights - Alfred Miller, (Sparse Grey
Hackle) Crown 1971
Royal Coachman - Paul Schullery, 1999
Prospecting for Trout - Tim Rosenbauer 1993
Trout Magic- Robert Traver, 1974 Crown
Trout Hunting - Frank Woolner 1977 Winchester Press
Misadventures of a Fisherman - Jack hemingway, 1986 Taylor
Publishing ( autographed copy)
Tying Dry Flies - Lefty kreh, 1998 Crown Publishing
Tricks that Take Fish - Howard Blaisdell 1954 H. Holt & Co.
The Longest Silence - Thomas McGuane, Knopf 1999
Just Fishing - Ray Bergman, 1945 Knopf
Western Trout Fly Tying Manual - Jack Dennis, Snake River Books
1974
Mastering the Art of Fly tying - Richard Talleur,1979,
Stackpole Books
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