Great article. I've never tied a tube fly, but shall make some once the Christmas rush is over. How do you keep these in your fly box once you've tied them>? Do you attach line with a loop, then run it through the tube and thus have it ready when you need it on the stream? Inquiring minds want to know. I can speak to the crow bar effect..lost several great kings in AK with just that happening. They'd jump, swing their heads and then the hook would come flying out of their mouths. Got smart and used some rather shorter shanked Fat Alberts and egg sucking leeches to overcome the effect. Wish I lived close enough for a seminar on this aspect of tying. Joyce
On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com> wrote: > For any type of fishing, a drawback of long-shanked hooks is the > 'crow-bar' effect. The pull against the eye of the hook is transferred to > the bend with the shank acting as a lever against the fish's jaw. This can > do a lot of damage to the fish if hooked solidly (wallow out a hole), or > bend the shank, or leverage the bend and barb right out of the hook-set > hole- again damaging the fish in the process. The bigger and stronger the > fish is, the worse the problem is. > > A short shank hook keeps a hook-set better, especially with fish that > roll. I've never witnessed a tuna rolling, though, LOL. (Shhhhhhh.... I > have a new shrimp pattern in a tube design because I wanted to get away from > long-shanked hooks just to get a tying platform.) > > Hooks can be selected for the quarry and fishing circumstance rather than > pre-tied into the fly. > You can change during fishing as you see the need. You may want to try a > double hook, or a circle hook, or a smaller hook, etc., or change from > freshwater bronze to saltwater alloy. Or, you can fish bronze hooks in > saltwater, which would allow the hook to dissolve quickly if a fish breaks > off, and you don't have to worry about a bronze hook corroding underneath > the materials in a saltwater-fished fly. > > The tube-fly can also side up the tippet to get it away from the teeth once > the hook-set is made. If the fly is tied on the +-side of neutral bouyancy, > a broken off fly will float to the surface. But if you want this fly to > sink while fishing, a heavy hook and some brass beads between the hook and > tube will get it down to the fish, as in fising for Spanish Mackeral running > 15' down. A tiny bit of foam glued into the end of the tube will keep a big > hook from prematurely backing away from the tube during a strip-stop > retreive or a long sink to the zone. > > Tube flies can also be tied articulated, actually stacked. For example, > you could have a 2-part squid (tentacles + eyes/mantle) in different colors > to mix&match. There's some web-sites showing articulated tube flies- just > Google them up. > > Just my 2 cents worth. > > Back ito my padded cell. > > DonO > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:* Jay Paulson <rustyh...@centurytel.net> > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:51 PM > *Subject:* RE: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > Many tube diameters can hold the hook by itself. I also glue a larger > diameter tube over the smaller tube the fly is tied on for large hooks. This > is actually preferable as the rubber tubing doesn’t hold the hook well for > hooking (IMHO). The reason many people in Europe use treble hooks is that > salmon are very good at throwing a single hook. I fished Norway this year > and can attest to that. I also think that salmon are good at this cause they > know if landed, they are going to get bonked. I must admit to not > understanding this, especially the killing of grilse. However, my buddy from > London landed a 20 pounder (netted by me) that was released! > > > > There are many short-shanked, large-gapped hooks available now for tube > flies. > > > > For a great source of tubes, check out: > http://www.hmhvises.com/tubesconeshooks.htm > > > > Jay > > > > *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *ashley strutt > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:14 AM > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > > > I know that a lot of people like to use single hooks for their tubes, I > notice that Partridge market them. > > > > I also remember Deb, who used to be on the list, saying that she liked to > use tubes for Bluefish tied on plastic tubes because when the fish takes the > fly slides up the leader and if the leader breaks she can just pick up the > floating fly. Although I thought that tubes were held in place at the > tube/hook join by a length of rubber tubing. > > > > Ashley > > > > On 9 November 2010 19:01, Jay Paulson <rustyh...@centurytel.net> wrote: > > In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a small treble hook > or double hook – much used over there. Here in the Pacific NW, tube flies > are a great way to build a long fly with little weight and to put a small > hook at the back. For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without > using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3 inches long. > > > > Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some reservations about > the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook > more consisitently. > > > > Jay > > > > *From:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com [mailto:vfb-m...@googlegroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Wayne Blake-Hedges > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:56 AM > > > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > > > Hi All; > > > > I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a conventional > fly, can someone point out why you would want to tie a tube fly? > > > > Wayneb > > --- On *Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann <hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>* wrote: > > > From: Hans Weilenmann <hans.weilenm...@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM > > Like this set maybe? > > http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm > > Cheers, > Hans > > ==================== You have a Friend in Low Places ==================== > Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands > http://www.danica.com/flytier > ================================================================= > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" > group. > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at http://www.linesend.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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