Hey, Ashley! Forgive me I don't know how to use this list very well. I do like to use tube flies on the Blues. They do have a junction tube connecting the hook to the tube with the crease fly pattern I tie but the Blue fish didn't seem to have any problems dislodging the fly if you get my meaning. LOL I have used them for bass and pan fish also. The junction tubing isn't always necessary (dependent on the pattern) but I liked Don O's idea of putting a bit of foam into the end of the tube to replace the bobber stopper idea they used to use. I may have to test that one out. I tie a lot on Yuri's tubes and on plastic tubes systems (Yuri also marketed these shortly before his death) there are a lot of companies out there that sell very cheap tubing to use for this purpose. There was also another company marketing a tube system that was somewhat interchangeable call Eumer tubes but they were ridiculously expensive. I have a few of them to show when I demo tube flies but I don't use them. The paint chips off way too easily and they weren't really good quality like Juri's. There is a Japanese book out on tube flies by Ken Sawada along with the two books I'm sure have already been mentioned by Mark Mandell and Les Johnson and I might mention that Paul Marriner has some nice examples of both tube flies and waddington shanks in his book. I could go on listing sources but those are my favorites along with the websites that have already been mentioned. I've been so tied up with school and I don't have a lot of time to even keep up with facebook but you can always tease me out from under my rock with tube flies. Miss you guys, Deb
On Nov 9, 9:49 pm, Jack Lehman <jklepo...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > Tube fly boxes are expensive, so I've found a cheaper alternative. I > use plastic boxes I found in the rifle cartridge section in gun shops. > They are boxes with 20 openings for holding large caliber shells, with a > lid that slides over the whole thing. Works well for those few tube > flies I've tied. > > jack > Austin > > On 11/9/2010 6:46 PM, Joyce M Westphal wrote: > > > > > Great article. I've never tied a tube fly, but shall make some once > > the Christmas rush is over. How do you keep these in your fly box > > once you've tied them>? Do you attach line with a loop, then run it > > through the tube and thus have it ready when you need it on the > > stream? Inquiring minds want to know. I can speak to the crow bar > > effect..lost several great kings in AK with just that happening. > > They'd jump, swing their heads and then the hook would come flying out > > of their mouths. Got smart and used some rather shorter shanked Fat > > Alberts and egg sucking leeches to overcome the effect. Wish I lived > > close enough for a seminar on this aspect of tying. Joyce > > > On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 2:20 AM, Don Ordes <f...@tribcsp.com > > <mailto:f...@tribcsp.com>> wrote: > > > For any type of fishing, a drawback of long-shanked hooks is the > > 'crow-bar' effect. The pull against the eye of the hook is > > transferred to the bend with the shank acting as a lever against > > the fish's jaw. This can do a lot of damage to the fish if hooked > > solidly (wallow out a hole), or bend the shank, or leverage the > > bend and barb right out of the hook-set hole- again damaging the > > fish in the process. The bigger and stronger the fish is, the > > worse the problem is. > > A short shank hook keeps a hook-set better, especially with fish > > that roll. I've never witnessed a tuna rolling, though, LOL. > > (Shhhhhhh.... I have a new shrimp pattern in a tube design because > > I wanted to get away from long-shanked hooks just to get a tying > > platform.) > > Hooks can be selected for the quarry and fishing circumstance > > rather than pre-tied into the fly. > > You can change during fishing as you see the need. You may want > > to try a double hook, or a circle hook, or a smaller hook, etc., > > or change from freshwater bronze to saltwater alloy. Or, you can > > fish bronze hooks in saltwater, which would allow the hook to > > dissolve quickly if a fish breaks off, and you don't have to worry > > about a bronze hook corroding underneath the materials in a > > saltwater-fished fly. > > The tube-fly can also side up the tippet to get it away from the > > teeth once the hook-set is made. If the fly is tied on the +-side > > of neutral bouyancy, a broken off fly will float to the surface. > > But if you want this fly to sink while fishing, a heavy hook and > > some brass beads between the hook and tube will get it down to the > > fish, as in fising for Spanish Mackeral running 15' down. A tiny > > bit of foam glued into the end of the tube will keep a big hook > > from prematurely backing away from the tube during a strip-stop > > retreive or a long sink to the zone. > > Tube flies can also be tied articulated, actually stacked. For > > example, you could have a 2-part squid (tentacles + eyes/mantle) > > in different colors to mix&match. There's some web-sites showing > > articulated tube flies- just Google them up. > > Just my 2 cents worth. > > Back ito my padded cell. > > DonO > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > *From:* Jay Paulson <mailto:rustyh...@centurytel.net> > > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:51 PM > > *Subject:* RE: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > > Many tube diameters can hold the hook by itself. I also glue a > > larger diameter tube over the smaller tube the fly is tied on > > for large hooks. This is actually preferable as the rubber > > tubing doesn�t hold the hook well for hooking (IMHO). The > > reason many people in Europe use treble hooks is that salmon > > are very good at throwing a single hook. I fished Norway this > > year and can attest to that. I also think that salmon are good > > at this cause they know if landed, they are going to get > > bonked. I must admit to not understanding this, especially the > > killing of grilse. However, my buddy from London landed a 20 > > pounder (netted by me) that was released! > > > There are many short-shanked, large-gapped hooks available now > > for tube flies. > > > For a great source of tubes, check out: > > http://www.hmhvises.com/tubesconeshooks.htm > > > Jay > > > *From:*vfb-m...@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *ashley strutt > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:14 AM > > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > > I know that a lot of people like to use single hooks for their > > tubes, I notice that Partridge market them. > > > I also remember Deb, who used to be on the list, saying that > > she liked to use tubes for Bluefish tied on plastic tubes > > because when the fish takes the fly slides up the leader and > > if the leader breaks she can just pick up the floating fly. > > Although I thought that tubes were held in place at the > > tube/hook join by a length of rubber tubing. > > > Ashley > > > On 9 November 2010 19:01, Jay Paulson > > <rustyh...@centurytel.net <mailto:rustyh...@centurytel.net>> > > wrote: > > > In Atlantic Salmon fishing, tube flies allow the use of a > > small treble hook or double hook � much used over there. Here > > in the Pacific NW, tube flies are a great way to build a long > > fly with little weight and to put a small hook at the back. > > For my dries, tubes allow me to build large flies without > > using ungainly hooks. I throw dry flies for steelhead up to 3 > > inches long. > > > Articulated flies are also used a lot, but I have some > > reservations about the hooking abilities of them. Tubes hold > > the hook rigidly and, I feel, hook more consisitently. > > > Jay > > > *From:*vfb-m...@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > [mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com>] *On Behalf Of *Wayne > > Blake-Hedges > > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 09, 2010 9:56 AM > > > *To:* vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > *Subject:* Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > > Hi All; > > > I still don't see the advantages to tying a tube fly versus a > > conventional fly, can someone point out why you would want to > > tie a tube fly? > > > Wayneb > > > --- On *Tue, 11/9/10, Hans Weilenmann > > /<hans.weilenm...@gmail.com > > <mailto:hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>>/* wrote: > > > From: Hans Weilenmann <hans.weilenm...@gmail.com > > <mailto:hans.weilenm...@gmail.com>> > > Subject: Re: [VFB] was Hello, now tube flies > > To: vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 9:23 AM > > > Like this set maybe? > > > http://www.danica.com/flytier/jshumakov/jshumakov.htm > > > Cheers, > > Hans > > > ==================== You have a Friend in Low Places > > ==================== > > Hans Weilenmann, The Netherlands > > http://www.danica.com/flytier > > > > ================================================================= > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to > > the "VFB Mail" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to > > vfb-mail@googlegroups.com <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc at > > http://www.linesend.com<http://www.linesend.com/> > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > "VFB Mail" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc athttp://www.linesend.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > "VFB Mail" group. > > > To post to this group, send email to vfb-mail@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail@googlegroups.com> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > <mailto:vfb-mail-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com> > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/vfb-mail?hl=en > > > VFB Mail is sponsored by Line's End Inc athttp://www.linesend.com > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the > > "VFB Mail" group. > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "VFB Mail" group. 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