On the way Keith. Been away. Apologies.

On 13/07/2015 7:00 AM, Michael Bliss wrote:
Sorry, I had some recent problems. Had a little operation. I will try to get my fly off this week.

Mike

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, KEITH PASSANT <kpt...@btinternet.com <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>> wrote:

    Good afternoon all.
    So far I have flies from Martin, Rick, Al, Nev and myself. Mine
    are the best as you would expect !!!!
    Tony has said that his will be in the post Monday, Rene has said
    his are ready to go too but has had a few problems.
    I have heard nothing at all from Don or Mike and Reuven.

    Can you let me know if you are still interested in being part of
    the tribute or have folded.

    Look forward to hearing from you all
    Cheers
    Keith



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    KP <kpt...@btinternet.com <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>>: May 27
    12:00PM -0700

    Hi all,
    I know I am just lurking these days but this got me out of my hole.
    This is a great idea. And as several folk have already said
    presents one
    problem. Getting it to Mrs Burgess a. Unbroken and b. So she
    doesn't have a
    customs bill.
    So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame
    it. I
    will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured. I
    don't like
    to do the bereaved bit. My nuts are too small!

    Just need numbers of intended and a way of covering costs not that
    they
    would be huge. I have done some framing flies and take various
    levels of
    care but most turn out ok!!
    This one would receive the utmost attention to detail. I would go
    with a
    square or oblong frame not round. Positioning is easier.
    As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly
    sure
    Birdie was not a member.
    So let me have your thoughts but more importantly if you are in
    don't hang
    around because I think we need to get it done quickly so she
    understands
    the significance of it all to those that corresponded with the man.
    Over to you folks
    Keith





    On Monday, 25 May 2015 16:08:23 UTC+1, Don Ordes wrote:

    KP <kpt...@btinternet.com <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>>: May 27
    12:03PM -0700


    > Don we have the power to make him an honorary member! If we
    could get a
    > certificate then it would make a great frame background and we
    could doctor
    > it so his name appeared in the cert right?

    DonO wrote:


    Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>:
    May 27 03:28PM -0400

    On 5/27/15 3:00 PM, KP wrote:
    > So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and
    frame it.
    > I will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured.
    GREAT idea, Keith. That makes the most sense of anything.

    > As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am
    fairly sure
    > Birdie was not a member.
    No he wasn't. And the more I have thought about it, I don't feel
    including the list of IOFF members is such a good idea, even making
    Brian an "honorary" member. Why? Because it was all done in jest and
    was written quite humorously. I don't think a person would be able to
    see any humor in it, having just lost her husband to a long and
    bitter
    struggle with cancer.

    However, the fly plate from his closest friends could be very
    meaningful.

    Just my own tuppence worth.

    Allan
    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 12:41PM -0700

    Hi KP:

    That would solve the major logistical problem since you are
    located in the UK and I know you from way back when. I have no
    problem with a certificate or whatever from the IOFF to Birdie as
    recognition. The other alternative is to include a photo lab copy
    of the photo of Birdie & his daughter. The photo is a little dark
    but could be made slightly lighter and more vibrant with Adobe
    Lightroom or a similar app. The photo lab could probably do this.

    Nev



    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 12:53PM -0700

    Attn Mike Bliss

    What year did the IOFF thing take place? Just curious………………………..Nev

    KP <kpt...@btinternet.com <mailto:kpt...@btinternet.com>>: May 27
    12:59PM -0700

    Thinking about it Al you may well be right on the certificate. So
    I would
    say forget that idea.
    Nev the photo is a good shout. If you wish you can email it and I
    will have
    a play with Picassa and use it as a focal point in
    the centre.
    Are we going to limit the number? After all this subject got me
    out in the
    open again so may also do so with other lurky types.
    I ask because this will be the factor in frame size.
    Any fly you fancy as long as it fits the frame ( NO 17/0 hooks Don
    :-) 15/0
    are fine ;-) )
    So there you go. I will tie a fly on a salmon hook Spey style.
    Cheers for now
    Keith

    On Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:28:56 UTC+1, Allan wrote:

    Rene Zillmann <rene.zillm...@t-online.de
    <mailto:rene.zillm...@t-online.de>>: May 27 10:04PM +0200

    that was 2004.
    I have one post from him in my records, however for some reason he did
    not make it to the official list.
    Rene

    On 05/27/2015 09:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
    Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>:
    May 27 04:06PM -0400

    My list of the Members of the Bored is dated March 8, 2008.

    This list was created by none other than our own infamous Jimmy D.
    Moore
    who, by the way, tells me that he is high and dry in Texas, unlike
    a lot
    of areas nearby.

    Allan


    On 5/27/15 3:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 02:23PM -0700

    Hi KP:

    I have taken a copy of the photo that Birdie’s daughter Kelly sent
    and have used Adobe Lightroom to perform a minor crop,
    The seat in front of them with the sweater & water bottle have
    been removed as the main attention is Birdie & Kelly. I have also
    tweaked with the exposure and white balance in order to make it a
    bit brighter. I am no expert with Lightroom and am still
    trying to learn how to use it to improve my photos.

    I suggest that you locate a good quality photo lab. Very often the
    best may be found at a store that specializes in cameras.
    Ideally you could copy it to a thumb/flash drive and take it to a
    local store and discuss what you want for the picture.
    It should always be saved at full strength i.e. full size. I will
    email to you via Dropbox full size and then you can download them.

    Re the flies - In my humble opinion, trout flies and salmon flies
    don’t display very well when they are mixed together especially
    as the hook size for salmon flies is normally much bigger. This is
    just my personal opinion, but I feel that the end result will look
    better if the flies are either all trout or all salmon but not a
    mix. Furthermore, it is better to keep the size roughly the same.
    Just my 2 cents worth.

    I attach my draft of the pictures. The darker on is the original
    and the brighter one my tweaked version . I will send the full size
    versions to you via dropbox…………………..Nev





    Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>:
    May 27 06:35PM -0400

    Good work with Lightroom, Nev.

    I may have to save my pennies and get that. <g>

    a.
    Mike Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com <mailto:flyfish...@gmail.com>>:
    May 27 04:36PM -0600

    2005

    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 04:16PM -0700

    Hi Al:

    Adobe is changing the way it is doing business. I purchased
    Lightroom 5 Christmas 2013 and they have just recently released
    Lightroom 6, however one can get the latest versions of Lightroom
    and Photoshop by monthly subscription of $9.95/month as an online
    web based program. It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last
    time that it can be purchased as a software program on a disc and
    all future version will be web based. I suspect that Adobe makes
    more $$$ that way.

    Nev



    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 04:20PM -0700

    > Thanks Mike. Time goes so fast when you are having fun 😀!

    Nev
    Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net <mailto:afi...@sbcglobal.net>>:
    May 27 09:56PM -0400

    On 5/27/15 7:16 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
    > It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can
    be purchased as a software program on a disc and all future
    version will be web based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$
    that way.
    Nev,

    I just looked up the price for Lightroom. I don't do enough
    photographic manipulation to justify buying it in any shape or form.

    Y-A-K!! I could buy a really nice fly rod for that price. <g>

    Al

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    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 10:45AM -0700

    Attention Don O:

    Would you be willing to meister this as it was your suggestion and
    you are extremely artistic? If you do accept and could get the
    finished product to me (I have a postal address available just
    across the border) I would collect it and take with me to the UK
    in the fall and get it to Birdie’s family.

    Nev




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    > 4. Nev Gosling - wonder wing mayfly . (I would meister this swap
    but it would be better if done by another VFB member.)
    > 5. Mike Bliss
    6. Reuven Segal
    7. Martin Westbeek

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    Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca
    <mailto:nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>>: May 27 10:13AM -0700

    It was Don O’s suggestion and he is much more artistic and a far
    better fly tier than I will ever be. He may have some better ideas
    about the design of the plate that he has in mind. Unfortunately,
    I am not very artistic and basically tie flies to catch fish
    rather than for show (because they don’t look very good). I am
    sure that if Don O was to create a plate of flies with the IOFF
    background, that it would be top notch.

    My idea would be to use the attached pic of Birdie and daughter
    Kelly with the flies either around the edges or underneath.
    Portability and shipping of the plate or framed artwork is a bit
    of a problem, but I am planning to go to England in the fall, not
    exactly sure when - could be as late as November and could take it
    then. If I was to meister, all I would need would be a single fly
    from each contributor - this would keep it simple and less onerous
    for the participants. A photo of the finished article would be all
    I need. I could keep tabs of the cost and we could divi-up after
    delivery to the family.

    Re Birdie, I just clicked with him because I was familiar with
    that part of England where he lived and we did exchange a few
    e-mails off list. I did telephone him when I was in the UK but
    just at that time he had visitors and so our conversation was
    quite short. I meant to phone back but got caught up in other
    events and never did. Like you, I never did meet him in person.

    Nev

    "MartinWestbeek" <martinwestb...@planet.nl
    <mailto:martinwestb...@planet.nl>>: May 27 07:19PM +0200

    Sorry gents for the late reply.
    But of course I'll contribute flies for the frame and the meister!
    Mart



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    Neville,

    I like your ideas.

    Would you be willing to "meister" this swap? I'll be glad to
    donate some $$$ (worth more in $$$CA) towards the frame.

    Al


    On 5/26/15 10:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:

    > I don’t think that I would put the glass in this end but use a
    piece of formica or similar just for travel - then substitute with
    glass upon arrival.

    > Framing as a circular plate does present problems and causes the
    whole thing to become larger as it would likely be a circle in a
    square frame. I can’t remember what the IOFF certificates look
    like - I am not an IOFF member. Perhaps another idea would be to
    get a photograph printed by a lab of Birdie & his daughter Kelly
    with the flies underneath. There will likely only be a few flies.
    My plan would be to take it with me on my next trip to England. I
    don’t think customs would be a problem. If I have access to a car,
    I may even be able to deliver it to his widow. I would want to
    keep it as small as reasonably possible.

    > Nev

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