Keith,
Been trying to email you direct, no response. 
I have a fly ready to send, need to see if it fits what you are doing.

DonO

From: KEITH PASSANT 
Sent: Sunday, July 12, 2015 10:38 AM
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Good afternoon all.
So far I have flies from Martin, Rick, Al, Nev and myself. Mine are the best as 
you would expect !!!! 
Tony has said that his will be in the post Monday, Rene has said his are ready 
to go too but has had a few problems. 
I have heard nothing at all from Don or Mike and Reuven.

Can you let me know if you are still interested in being part of the tribute or 
have folded.


Look forward to hearing from you all
Cheers
Keith




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Birdie fly plate? KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:00PM -0700 

      Hi all,
      I know I am just lurking these days but this got me out of my hole.
      This is a great idea. And as several folk have already said presents one 
      problem. Getting it to Mrs Burgess a. Unbroken and b. So she doesn't have 
a 
      customs bill.
      So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it. I 
      will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured. I don't like 
      to do the bereaved bit. My nuts are too small!
       
      Just need numbers of intended and a way of covering costs not that they 
      would be huge. I have done some framing flies and take various levels of 
      care but most turn out ok!!
      This one would receive the utmost attention to detail. I would go with a 
      square or oblong frame not round. Positioning is easier.
      As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure 
      Birdie was not a member.
      So let me have your thoughts but more importantly if you are in don't 
hang 
      around because I think we need to get it done quickly so she understands 
      the significance of it all to those that corresponded with the man.
      Over to you folks
      Keith
       
       
       
       
       
      On Monday, 25 May 2015 16:08:23 UTC+1, Don Ordes wrote:
       
     
      KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:03PM -0700 


      > Don we have the power to make him an honorary member! If we could get a 
      > certificate then it would make a great frame background and we could 
doctor 
      > it so his name appeared in the cert right?
       
      DonO wrote:

       
     
      Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 03:28PM -0400 

      On 5/27/15 3:00 PM, KP wrote:
      > So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it. 
      > I will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured.
      GREAT idea, Keith. That makes the most sense of anything.
       
      > As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure 
      > Birdie was not a member.
      No he wasn't. And the more I have thought about it, I don't feel 
      including the list of IOFF members is such a good idea, even making 
      Brian an "honorary" member. Why? Because it was all done in jest and 
      was written quite humorously. I don't think a person would be able to 
      see any humor in it, having just lost her husband to a long and bitter 
      struggle with cancer.
       
      However, the fly plate from his closest friends could be very meaningful.
       
      Just my own tuppence worth.
       
      Allan
     
      Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 12:41PM -0700 

      Hi KP:
       
      That would solve the major logistical problem since you are located in 
the UK and I know you from way back when. I have no problem with a certificate 
or whatever from the IOFF to Birdie as recognition. The other alternative is to 
include a photo lab copy of the photo of Birdie & his daughter. The photo is a 
little dark but could be made slightly lighter and more vibrant with Adobe 
Lightroom or a similar app. The photo lab could probably do this.
       
      Nev
       
       
       
     
      Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 12:53PM -0700 

      Attn Mike Bliss
       
      What year did the IOFF thing take place? Just curious………………………..Nev
       
     
      KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:59PM -0700 

      Thinking about it Al you may well be right on the certificate. So I would 
      say forget that idea. 
      Nev the photo is a good shout. If you wish you can email it and I will 
have 
      a play with Picassa and use it as a focal point in
      the centre. 
      Are we going to limit the number? After all this subject got me out in 
the 
      open again so may also do so with other lurky types.
      I ask because this will be the factor in frame size. 
      Any fly you fancy as long as it fits the frame ( NO 17/0 hooks Don :-) 
15/0 
      are fine ;-) )
      So there you go. I will tie a fly on a salmon hook Spey style.
      Cheers for now
      Keith
       
      On Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:28:56 UTC+1, Allan wrote:
       
     
      Rene Zillmann <rene.zillm...@t-online.de>: May 27 10:04PM +0200 

      that was 2004.
      I have one post from him in my records, however for some reason he did
      not make it to the official list.
      Rene
       
      On 05/27/2015 09:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
     
      Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 04:06PM -0400 

      My list of the Members of the Bored is dated March 8, 2008.
       
      This list was created by none other than our own infamous Jimmy D. Moore 
      who, by the way, tells me that he is high and dry in Texas, unlike a lot 
      of areas nearby.
       
      Allan
       
       
      On 5/27/15 3:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
     
      Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 02:23PM -0700 

      Hi KP:
       
      I have taken a copy of the photo that Birdie’s daughter Kelly sent and 
have used Adobe Lightroom to perform a minor crop, 
      The seat in front of them with the sweater & water bottle have been 
removed as the main attention is Birdie & Kelly. I have also
      tweaked with the exposure and white balance in order to make it a bit 
brighter. I am no expert with Lightroom and am still
      trying to learn how to use it to improve my photos.
       
      I suggest that you locate a good quality photo lab. Very often the best 
may be found at a store that specializes in cameras. 
      Ideally you could copy it to a thumb/flash drive and take it to a local 
store and discuss what you want for the picture. 
      It should always be saved at full strength i.e. full size. I will email 
to you via Dropbox full size and then you can download them.
       
      Re the flies - In my humble opinion, trout flies and salmon flies don’t 
display very well when they are mixed together especially
      as the hook size for salmon flies is normally much bigger. This is just 
my personal opinion, but I feel that the end result will look
      better if the flies are either all trout or all salmon but not a mix. 
Furthermore, it is better to keep the size roughly the same.
      Just my 2 cents worth.
       
      I attach my draft of the pictures. The darker on is the original and the 
brighter one my tweaked version . I will send the full size 
      versions to you via dropbox…………………..Nev
       
       
       
       
       
     
      Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 06:35PM -0400 

      Good work with Lightroom, Nev.
       
      I may have to save my pennies and get that. <g>
       
      a.
     
      Mike Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>: May 27 04:36PM -0600 

      2005
       
     
      Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 04:16PM -0700 

      Hi Al:
       
      Adobe is changing the way it is doing business. I purchased Lightroom 5 
Christmas 2013 and they have just recently released Lightroom 6, however one 
can get the latest versions of Lightroom and Photoshop by monthly subscription 
of $9.95/month as an online web based program. It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 
may be the last time that it can be purchased as a software program on a disc 
and all future version will be web based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ 
that way.
       
      Nev
       
       
       
     
      Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 04:20PM -0700 

      > Thanks Mike. Time goes so fast when you are having fun 😀!
       
      Nev
     
      Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 09:56PM -0400 

      On 5/27/15 7:16 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
      > It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can be 
purchased as a software program on a disc and all future version will be web 
based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ that way.
      Nev,
       
      I just looked up the price for Lightroom. I don't do enough 
      photographic manipulation to justify buying it in any shape or form.
       
      Y-A-K!! I could buy a really nice fly rod for that price. <g>
       
      Al
     

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Birdie Plate or Plaque Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 10:45AM 
-0700 

      Attention Don O:
       
      Would you be willing to meister this as it was your suggestion and you 
are extremely artistic? If you do accept and could get the finished product to 
me (I have a postal address available just across the border) I would collect 
it and take with me to the UK in the fall and get it to Birdie’s family.
       
      Nev
       
       
       
       
      > 3. Tony Spezio - knit picking mayfly
      > 4. Nev Gosling - wonder wing mayfly . (I would meister this swap but it 
would be better if done by another VFB member.)
      > 5. Mike Bliss
      6. Reuven Segal
      7. Martin Westbeek
     

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[Shaw Suspected Junk Email] [VFB] Post Script - Birdie plate Neville Gosling 
<nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 10:13AM -0700 

      It was Don O’s suggestion and he is much more artistic and a far better 
fly tier than I will ever be. He may have some better ideas about the design of 
the plate that he has in mind. Unfortunately, I am not very artistic and 
basically tie flies to catch fish rather than for show (because they don’t look 
very good). I am sure that if Don O was to create a plate of flies with the 
IOFF background, that it would be top notch. 
       
      My idea would be to use the attached pic of Birdie and daughter Kelly 
with the flies either around the edges or underneath. Portability and shipping 
of the plate or framed artwork is a bit of a problem, but I am planning to go 
to England in the fall, not exactly sure when - could be as late as November 
and could take it then. If I was to meister, all I would need would be a single 
fly from each contributor - this would keep it simple and less onerous for the 
participants. A photo of the finished article would be all I need. I could keep 
tabs of the cost and we could divi-up after delivery to the family. 
       
      Re Birdie, I just clicked with him because I was familiar with that part 
of England where he lived and we did exchange a few e-mails off list. I did 
telephone him when I was in the UK but just at that time he had visitors and so 
our conversation was quite short. I meant to phone back but got caught up in 
other events and never did. Like you, I never did meet him in person.
       
      Nev
       
     
      "MartinWestbeek" <martinwestb...@planet.nl>: May 27 07:19PM +0200 

      Sorry gents for the late reply.
      But of course I'll contribute flies for the frame and the meister!
      Mart
       
       
       
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      Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Post Script - Birdie plate
       
      Neville,
       
      I like your ideas.
       
      Would you be willing to "meister" this swap? I'll be glad to donate some 
$$$ (worth more in $$$CA) towards the frame.
       
      Al
       
       
      On 5/26/15 10:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
       
      > I don’t think that I would put the glass in this end but use a piece of 
formica or similar just for travel - then substitute with glass upon arrival.
       
      > Framing as a circular plate does present problems and causes the whole 
thing to become larger as it would likely be a circle in a square frame. I 
can’t remember what the IOFF certificates look like - I am not an IOFF member. 
Perhaps another idea would be to get a photograph printed by a lab of Birdie & 
his daughter Kelly with the flies underneath. There will likely only be a few 
flies. My plan would be to take it with me on my next trip to England. I don’t 
think customs would be a problem. If I have access to a car, I may even be able 
to deliver it to his widow. I would want to keep it as small as reasonably 
possible.
       
      > Nev
       
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