It hurts major :)

On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 9:09 AM, 'Rick Zieger' via VFB Mail <
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> Little operations are on other folks.  I thought yours was a major
> operation.,
> Rick
>
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>  *From:* Michael Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>
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> Sorry, I had some recent problems.  Had a little operation.  I will try to
> get my fly off this week.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 10:38 AM, KEITH PASSANT <kpt...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> Good afternoon all.
> So far I have flies from Martin, Rick, Al, Nev and myself. Mine are the
> best as you would expect !!!!
> Tony has said that his will be in the post Monday, Rene has said his are
> ready to go too but has had a few problems.
> I have heard nothing at all from Don or Mike and Reuven.
>
> Can you let me know if you are still interested in being part of the
> tribute or have folded.
>
> Look forward to hearing from you all
> Cheers
> Keith
>
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>  KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:00PM -0700
>
> Hi all,
> I know I am just lurking these days but this got me out of my hole.
> This is a great idea. And as several folk have already said presents one
> problem. Getting it to Mrs Burgess a. Unbroken and b. So she doesn't have
> a
> customs bill.
> So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it. I
> will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured. I don't like
> to do the bereaved bit. My nuts are too small!
>
> Just need numbers of intended and a way of covering costs not that they
> would be huge. I have done some framing flies and take various levels of
> care but most turn out ok!!
> This one would receive the utmost attention to detail. I would go with a
> square or oblong frame not round. Positioning is easier.
> As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure
> Birdie was not a member.
> So let me have your thoughts but more importantly if you are in don't hang
> around because I think we need to get it done quickly so she understands
> the significance of it all to those that corresponded with the man.
> Over to you folks
> Keith
>
>
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>
>
> On Monday, 25 May 2015 16:08:23 UTC+1, Don Ordes wrote:
>
>  KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:03PM -0700
>
>
> > Don we have the power to make him an honorary member! If we could get a
> > certificate then it would make a great frame background and we could
> doctor
> > it so his name appeared in the cert right?
>
> DonO wrote:
>
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>  Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 03:28PM -0400
>
> On 5/27/15 3:00 PM, KP wrote:
> > So............... how about I meister it here in the UK and frame it.
> > I will not deliver it but get it delivered by courier insured.
> GREAT idea, Keith. That makes the most sense of anything.
>
> > As for the IOFF well I don't have a list of members but am fairly sure
> > Birdie was not a member.
> No he wasn't. And the more I have thought about it, I don't feel
> including the list of IOFF members is such a good idea, even making
> Brian an "honorary" member. Why? Because it was all done in jest and
> was written quite humorously. I don't think a person would be able to
> see any humor in it, having just lost her husband to a long and bitter
> struggle with cancer.
>
> However, the fly plate from his closest friends could be very meaningful.
>
> Just my own tuppence worth.
>
> Allan
>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 12:41PM -0700
>
> Hi KP:
>
> That would solve the major logistical problem since you are located in the
> UK and I know you from way back when. I have no problem with a certificate
> or whatever from the IOFF to Birdie as recognition. The other alternative
> is to include a photo lab copy of the photo of Birdie & his daughter. The
> photo is a little dark but could be made slightly lighter and more vibrant
> with Adobe Lightroom or a similar app. The photo lab could probably do this.
>
> Nev
>
>
>
>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 12:53PM -0700
>
> Attn Mike Bliss
>
> What year did the IOFF thing take place? Just curious………………………..Nev
>
>  KP <kpt...@btinternet.com>: May 27 12:59PM -0700
>
> Thinking about it Al you may well be right on the certificate. So I would
> say forget that idea.
> Nev the photo is a good shout. If you wish you can email it and I will
> have
> a play with Picassa and use it as a focal point in
> the centre.
> Are we going to limit the number? After all this subject got me out in the
> open again so may also do so with other lurky types.
> I ask because this will be the factor in frame size.
> Any fly you fancy as long as it fits the frame ( NO 17/0 hooks Don :-)
> 15/0
> are fine ;-) )
> So there you go. I will tie a fly on a salmon hook Spey style.
> Cheers for now
> Keith
>
> On Wednesday, 27 May 2015 20:28:56 UTC+1, Allan wrote:
>
>  Rene Zillmann <rene.zillm...@t-online.de>: May 27 10:04PM +0200
>
> that was 2004.
> I have one post from him in my records, however for some reason he did
> not make it to the official list.
> Rene
>
> On 05/27/2015 09:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>  Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 04:06PM -0400
>
> My list of the Members of the Bored is dated March 8, 2008.
>
> This list was created by none other than our own infamous Jimmy D. Moore
> who, by the way, tells me that he is high and dry in Texas, unlike a lot
> of areas nearby.
>
> Allan
>
>
> On 5/27/15 3:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 02:23PM -0700
>
> Hi KP:
>
> I have taken a copy of the photo that Birdie’s daughter Kelly sent and
> have used Adobe Lightroom to perform a minor crop,
> The seat in front of them with the sweater & water bottle have been
> removed as the main attention is Birdie & Kelly. I have also
> tweaked with the exposure and white balance in order to make it a bit
> brighter. I am no expert with Lightroom and am still
> trying to learn how to use it to improve my photos.
>
> I suggest that you locate a good quality photo lab. Very often the best
> may be found at a store that specializes in cameras.
> Ideally you could copy it to a thumb/flash drive and take it to a local
> store and discuss what you want for the picture.
> It should always be saved at full strength i.e. full size. I will email to
> you via Dropbox full size and then you can download them.
>
> Re the flies - In my humble opinion, trout flies and salmon flies don’t
> display very well when they are mixed together especially
> as the hook size for salmon flies is normally much bigger. This is just my
> personal opinion, but I feel that the end result will look
> better if the flies are either all trout or all salmon but not a mix.
> Furthermore, it is better to keep the size roughly the same.
> Just my 2 cents worth.
>
> I attach my draft of the pictures. The darker on is the original and the
> brighter one my tweaked version . I will send the full size
> versions to you via dropbox…………………..Nev
>
>
>
>
>
>  Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 06:35PM -0400
>
> Good work with Lightroom, Nev.
>
> I may have to save my pennies and get that. <g>
>
> a.
>  Mike Bliss <flyfish...@gmail.com>: May 27 04:36PM -0600
>
> 2005
>
>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 04:16PM -0700
>
> Hi Al:
>
> Adobe is changing the way it is doing business. I purchased Lightroom 5
> Christmas 2013 and they have just recently released Lightroom 6, however
> one can get the latest versions of Lightroom and Photoshop by monthly
> subscription of $9.95/month as an online web based program. It is rumoured
> that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can be purchased as a
> software program on a disc and all future version will be web based. I
> suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ that way.
>
> Nev
>
>
>
>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 04:20PM -0700
>
> > Thanks Mike. Time goes so fast when you are having fun 😀!
>
> Nev
>  Allan Fish <afi...@sbcglobal.net>: May 27 09:56PM -0400
>
> On 5/27/15 7:16 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
> > It is rumoured that Lightroom 6 may be the last time that it can be
> purchased as a software program on a disc and all future version will be
> web based. I suspect that Adobe makes more $$$ that way.
> Nev,
>
> I just looked up the price for Lightroom. I don't do enough
> photographic manipulation to justify buying it in any shape or form.
>
> Y-A-K!! I could buy a really nice fly rod for that price. <g>
>
> Al
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>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 10:45AM -0700
>
> Attention Don O:
>
> Would you be willing to meister this as it was your suggestion and you are
> extremely artistic? If you do accept and could get the finished product to
> me (I have a postal address available just across the border) I would
> collect it and take with me to the UK in the fall and get it to Birdie’s
> family.
>
> Nev
>
>
>
>
> > 3. Tony Spezio - knit picking mayfly
> > 4. Nev Gosling - wonder wing mayfly . (I would meister this swap but it
> would be better if done by another VFB member.)
> > 5. Mike Bliss
> 6. Reuven Segal
> 7. Martin Westbeek
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>  Neville Gosling <nev.gosl...@shaw.ca>: May 27 10:13AM -0700
>
> It was Don O’s suggestion and he is much more artistic and a far better
> fly tier than I will ever be. He may have some better ideas about the
> design of the plate that he has in mind. Unfortunately, I am not very
> artistic and basically tie flies to catch fish rather than for show
> (because they don’t look very good). I am sure that if Don O was to create
> a plate of flies with the IOFF background, that it would be top notch.
>
> My idea would be to use the attached pic of Birdie and daughter Kelly with
> the flies either around the edges or underneath. Portability and shipping
> of the plate or framed artwork is a bit of a problem, but I am planning to
> go to England in the fall, not exactly sure when - could be as late as
> November and could take it then. If I was to meister, all I would need
> would be a single fly from each contributor - this would keep it simple and
> less onerous for the participants. A photo of the finished article would be
> all I need. I could keep tabs of the cost and we could divi-up after
> delivery to the family.
>
> Re Birdie, I just clicked with him because I was familiar with that part
> of England where he lived and we did exchange a few e-mails off list. I did
> telephone him when I was in the UK but just at that time he had visitors
> and so our conversation was quite short. I meant to phone back but got
> caught up in other events and never did. Like you, I never did meet him in
> person.
>
> Nev
>
>  "MartinWestbeek" <martinwestb...@planet.nl>: May 27 07:19PM +0200
>
> Sorry gents for the late reply.
> But of course I'll contribute flies for the frame and the meister!
> Mart
>
>
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> Allan Fish
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> Onderwerp: Re: [VFB] Post Script - Birdie plate
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> Neville,
>
> I like your ideas.
>
> Would you be willing to "meister" this swap? I'll be glad to donate some
> $$$ (worth more in $$$CA) towards the frame.
>
> Al
>
>
> On 5/26/15 10:53 PM, Neville Gosling wrote:
>
> > I don’t think that I would put the glass in this end but use a piece of
> formica or similar just for travel - then substitute with glass upon
> arrival.
>
> > Framing as a circular plate does present problems and causes the whole
> thing to become larger as it would likely be a circle in a square frame. I
> can’t remember what the IOFF certificates look like - I am not an IOFF
> member. Perhaps another idea would be to get a photograph printed by a lab
> of Birdie & his daughter Kelly with the flies underneath. There will likely
> only be a few flies. My plan would be to take it with me on my next trip to
> England. I don’t think customs would be a problem. If I have access to a
> car, I may even be able to deliver it to his widow. I would want to keep it
> as small as reasonably possible.
>
> > Nev
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