At 09:13 AM 9/29/02, you wrote:

>In my 'opinion' a turned down eye is the poorest design. It reduces the 
>gape of the hook...much more apparent in the tiny sizes. I prefer a 
>straight eye hook most of the time.
>
>Visualize your tippet coming directly off the end of the eye. Pulling on a 
>down eye hook actually pulls the point of the hook slightly up and 
>rearward...;^) While a straight eye hook is pulled straight forward.
>
>That should start up a lively discussion...<G>


    sounds like you're  assuming  that the damnable improved clinch not is 
being used.....

     Consider  the fact that, traditionally, the Turle knot was used with 
the downturned eye...


Splinta

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