Hey Wes,

Look at the Renzetti Traveler.  I bought mine for $154.00 Canadian.  Great vise. As 
they say in Canada - It's a beauty vise, eh!

The beauty of a rotary vise is the ability to rotate the fly as you tie it or view it. 
 I'll use the rotary function for wrapping floss, palmered hackles, dubbing noodles, 
mylar, and to see if my wings are set correctly on streamers and salmon flies.  My 8 
year old daughter even uses the rotary function to put on the thread underbody.  Once 
you learn to use the function, you will like it.

So, you have an older HMH - great vise.  The craftsmanship on the older HMH vises is a 
sight to behold.  Can HMH convert it to rotary?  You should ask them.  I bought my HMH 
rotary for my Christmas present, but alas my daughter uses it now.  But I do get to 
use it occasionally.

Cheers,

Alberta Al

-----Original Message-----
From: Wes Wada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 11:03 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [VFB] Oft-asked question/rotary vise


Pardons requested, but I need to ask a question I know has been asked 
many times before.  Safe to say I wasn't paying attention to the 
answers at the time...

My main vise, an HMH is in need of factory repair/ reconditioning after 
about seven years of use, so I need to send it back east.  I am doing a 
lot of tying right now, and my only backup vise is the original 
Thompson A I first learned on.  The A doesn't flip over easily so that 
I can examine or tie on the bottom of the fly, like the HMH.

I am considering buying one of the inexpensive Renzetti knock-offs 
available on eBay to tide me over until the HMH returns. Part of that 
decision is to try out a rotary vise and end up with both types in the 
tying area.

MANY people who learned on a non-rotary have said that when they tie on 
a true rotary vise, they tend not to use the rotary features, but tie 
the same as they used to on the non-rotary.

I've also heard people who tie on a Regal say that they like being able 
to lean the edge of their hand on top of the vise when they are tying.  
Not sure if that is practical or possible when tying on a rotary.

What is a long-time non-rotary tier really going to gain or lose by 
buying a rotary??

Comments?  Suggestions?

Thanks,
Wes Wada
Bend, Oregon



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