Bill- When is a rant a rant and when is a rant an education?
Perhaps the latter applies here. Points well taken. In addition, I researched what I would need to post process the 24p as 24p. Not all NLEs can handle the native format. The ones that do tend to be on the high-end. Thanks for the education. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is kind of an issue with me. The DVX 100 has 24p but I find 24p > to be over rated when it comes to getting a "film" look. When people > talk about getting a "film" look on video they're talking about > getting a film transfered to video look. The best ways to achieve this > is A) to de-interlace which actually reduces your resolution because > de-interlacing involves removing or blending in every other horizontal > line. And B) to make fine adjustments to the gamma curves in your > footage. If you know Photoshop or are a Photographer you'll know what > I'm talking about. Video tends to have a harsher more evenly > distributed gamma curve and film tapers more in the light and dark > parts of your image. > > 24p tries to mimic the frame rate of film which is almost > imperceptible if the footage is kept in a video format. And when you > are capturing 24 frames per second you are capturing less information. > than you would capture in 25fps (pal) or 29.97fps (ntsc). I want to > start with the maximum image information posible and then have the > choice to throw out stuff later if I want. > > One other reason some people think they need to shoot in 24p is > because they think it helps when they are bumping up to film. It > doesn't. When video is bumped up to film the process works the same if > you shot 24p or 60i. And I don't care what kind of camera you shot > with or how you shot it, MiniDV footage will never look like you shot > on 35mm once you've bumped it up to 35mm. > > There all kinds of conversion issues you have too before you can even > edit the stuff as well. > > So it all boils down to this: 24p is an unnecessary gimmick that is > really just a pain in the ass. > > If you want a more 'filmish' look deinterlace (and a lot of web level > compression already does this for you) and adjust your gamma curves if > you can (one nice thing about the DVX 100 is that it can do this for > you in camera). > > End of rant. > > Bill Streeter > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS > www.lofistl.com > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Rich Hand" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks. I currently own a Panasonic PV-GS150 which kind of matches up > > with your Sony. A similar size. But I have started doing "work" that > > needs a it more quality and manual adjustments. So I thought a 24p > > might provide that film - documentary look. > > > > > > -- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Chris Daniel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Rich, > > > > > > I've got a DVX100a. The footage from it looks great, but I find I > > > also do alot of my vlogging from my Sony HC20 camera (alot cheaper).. > > > just because it's easy to carry around, and you can even put it in > > > your pocket. The DVX gets pretty close to looking like film, being > > > that it shoots in 24p.. but i'm guessing you already knew that if you > > > are looking at buying one.. :) > > > > > > I guess the real decision will come from finding out how you want to > > > use the camera, or how you want the footage to look. > > > > > > Another thing to think about... *sound*. The xlr inputs on the DVX > > > are great to have! > > > > > > -Chris > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.chrisdanielvideos.com > > > > > > On 1/20/06, Rich Hand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I have the opportunity to purchase a better MiniDV camcorder, but > > > > thought I would check with the forum to see what your opinions are. > > > > > > > > The one I like is the Panasonic AG-DVX100B MiniDV. > > > > > > > > Kind of expensive. Does anyone have other suggestions for similar > > > > featured camcorders? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/videoblogging/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
