This group should be ashamed.

It should be ashamed over what is happening to it right here with this
discussion.

The only thing I can say at this point about Feldman, Podtech, Scoble,
AND this group as a whole with the infighting is "*pfffft*"

David
http://www.davidhowellstudios.com
http://www.taoofdavid.com


--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Dude, you have no idea what Bill Streeter believes, I know Bill, I 
> don't know you but you are certainly using this "thing" with Loren to 
> be vocal, after you "changed" your mind I might add....you are more 
> fake than Loren
> 
> Heath
> 
> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "danielmcvicar" 
> <danielmcvicar@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > C'mon Bill, who are you kidding.  1938media has billing above you at
> > Podtech, a private media company and network with sponsors and 
> shows. 
> > 
> > You are in there eating with the trolls.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Bill Streeter" <bill@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Loren who? What are you talking about? Is Loren a group troll or 
> > > something? What did I miss? Why should we care what this "Loren" 
> > > that you speak of thinks, says or does? Is he in charge of 
> > > something? What makes him relevant?
> > > 
> > > Seriously, are we really gonna talk about every fool with an 
> opinion 
> > > that says something stupid in a video? Why should we care? 
> Youtube 
> > > is full of nutcases with webcams saying stupid shit. Are we gonna 
> > > talk about all of them too?
> > > 
> > > Don't feed the trolls. 
> > > 
> > > Bill Streeter
> > > LO-FI SAINT LOUIS
> > > www.lofistl.com
> > > www.billstreeter.net
> > > 
> > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Watkins" <steve@> 
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In his latest video, Loren provides a sort-of-explanation about 
> his
> > > > recent videos, and then launches a scathing attack on this 
> group.
> > > > 
> > > > Complains about:
> > > > 
> > > > Groupthink
> > > > Nobody emailing him
> > > > Nobody making a video about it or taking other action, all talk
> > > > Not having any balls
> > > > People trying to get podtech to censor him.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Now personally I have a trackrecord of talking about groupthink 
> > > here,
> > > > and sometimes going against the grain. I therefore share some 
> of 
> > > his
> > > > concerns about this stuff, but I am rather unsure of the 
> specifics 
> > > of
> > > > what he was trying to prove, Im not sure Ive learnt anything 
> new 
> > > so I
> > > > resent his suggestion that he has proved something to the 
> gullible 
> > > herd.
> > > > 
> > > > He talks of the potential of what social media could really be 
> used
> > > > for, but doesnt go into any detail, so I am left guessing as to
> > > > whether he means the same sorts of things I feel are possible, 
> and
> > > > often complain arent really happening.
> > > > 
> > > > Persoanally I freely admit to having no balls, and of being 
> mostly 
> > > all
> > > > talk, and rarely making videos, so those complaints dont bother 
> me,
> > > > but are probably unfair to a lot of other people here.
> > > > 
> > > > And I think this whole thing was a pretty crappy example of
> > > > groupthink. Not everybody here has expressed the same opinion 
> by a
> > > > long shot, and I think there have been much better examples of
> > > > groupthink in the past. The best examples of groupthink Ive 
> seen 
> > > are
> > > > when everyone jumps on a bandwagon and starts attacking 
> something
> > > > without learning the facts first, its happened here to one 
> degree 
> > > or
> > > > another in the past. But the thing with Feldmans video was that
> > > > watching the video was about the only fact available. I take 
> his 
> > > point
> > > > that maybe some people could of thought to ask him, if they 
> wanted 
> > > to
> > > > form their own independent conclusions, but with something like 
> > > this
> > > > does someone really need to do anything other than watch the 
> video 
> > > to
> > > > form an opinion?
> > > > 
> > > > I would guess that not everybody here wants podtech to censor 
> him, 
> > > I
> > > > certainly dont, and therefore I dont think its a great example 
> of
> > > > groupthink at all. Especially as numerous people have made 
> lengthy
> > > > posts where they ponder his motives, whether he was using it to 
> > > make
> > > > some other point, so how can he claim that everybody fell for 
> it? 
> > > Just
> > > > because the group may seem to Feldman to be one large mash of 
> > > people
> > > > with a collective stupid brain, doesnt make it so, if he is too 
> > > lazy
> > > > to look at the subtle differences in peoples opinions then pah. 
> Its
> > > > the same phenomenon as racism really isnt it, lumping everyone
> > > > together under one label in the mind?
> > > > 
> > > > Cheers
> > > > 
> > > > Steve Elbows
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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