--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "trine bjørkmann berry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > For the record; > > Knut Hamsun (and his character in Hunger, incidentally) both had to > 'deal with people'. The character in Hunger spends much of his time > trying desperately to get paid, and - ironically perhaps - finds that > when he does get paid, he can no longer work. >
Yes. Hamsun and the character had to deal with people. But he wasn't getting millions of views of "Hunger" without compensation. There are many pitfalls of fame and power. Maybe those pitfalls are worse than fame and poverty, as Hamsun's political meddlings suggest. > Hamsun was a much admired author in Norway until he started meddling > in politics and made himself incredibly unpopular. He even received > the Nobel Price for literature, luckily, perhaps, before the > aforementioned meddling in politics left him with fewer friends among > the so-called norwegian cultural elite (contradiction in terms, I > know... ;-)) > > Trine > > > > On 8/9/08, ractalfece <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I see the philosophical difference. I understand starving for art. > > Knut Hamsun's "Hunger". Great book. But here's the difference > > between Knut and me. I'm starving and dealing with people. Why > > should I have to accept the hardships of fame without compensation? > > > > I don't. That's why I can't guarantee in the future you'll be able to > > see my work without paying. > > > > - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - > > > > --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "Jen Proctor" <proctorjen@> > > wrote: > >> > >> I'm sorry that you've had hard financial times. I could go into the > >> financial straits my family and I have endured as well, but I don't > >> think that's the point. I don't think the hardship of living out of a > >> car is still any kind of justification that art is best served within > >> commodity culture. > >> > >> I'm not saying that YOU should remove your work from commodity > >> culture. That's not my argument - you should do whatever you feel is > >> right for your work and your life, and I completely respect that. I > >> just take issue with the notion that asking viewers to pay the > >> individual maker for online video is any kind of revolution or, > >> ultimately, a viable solution. > >> > >> It's simply a philosophical disagreement - power to ya to do whatever > >> is right for you. I just can't guarantee that I'll pay to watch your > > work. > >> > >> --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, "ractalfece" <john@> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > > So I guess my point regarding Information Dystopia is that as > > much as > >> > > I'd like to see artists better compensated for their work, whether > >> > > through public funding or individual donations, as requested in the > >> > > video, the disconnect from this larger history makes the call for > >> > > compensation feel more like hubris than a revolution. The > > situation we > >> > > are in as artists on the web is nothing new in terms of trying > > to make > >> > > money. To me, as Rupert has stated earlier, the greater > > revolution of > >> > > the web is in the possibilities for removing our work from commodity > >> > > culture - making the work free, accessible, open, and remixable. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > Jen, watch this video response I did to Mark Horowitz's "7 Days in a > >> > Sentra" ad campaign. > >> > > >> > Mark Horriblewitz's video: > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_eMXE2Z58QI > >> > > >> > My response: > >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHFPsx_7id0 > >> > > >> > Then tell me about removing my work from commodity culture. > >> > > >> > - john@ - > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > -- > -------------------------------- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > trine.blogs.com > henrikisak.blogspot.com > twitter.com/trine >
