There are tremendous opportunities with this kind of stuff, Rambo. > I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling > and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other > web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in > these > events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not > have > a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be > advantageous.
Well, there is a lot more overlap than you'd think in shooting flying dogs and shredding surfers. Simple things like not zooming constantly, white balancing choosing the best place to set up so the crowd is visible. So, I do think there would be some possibilities there, but it might not be for you. You've got a schtick, a niche market. I'd actually see you more as the community curator, farming out the work to wet video people on the coasts, as opposed to shooting dog stuff for me. I'd be more likely to shoot a paddling session on Lake Michigan for you, and if you had a good track record of selling vids online, I'd probably do it - I like paddling (lived on Oahu for a few years - kind of majored in surfing and scuba), and it wouldn't be that much of a big deal to go shoot some nice stuff then cut it and upload it to your site. Then you cut checks to me as the videos fly out of the server. It would be a nice supplement to my personal economy. All it would really take are the technical skills to get the job done - good in low light? Shoot some band stuff at local bars to supplement your wedding videography business. Good at shooting high action sport? Shoot some dog video for my site. Good at getting telling story? Shoot it all! I'm with you Rambo. I think pay to play could be big in 2009. peace, Ron Watson http://k9disc.blip.tv http://k9disc.com http://discdogradio.com http://pawsitivevybe.com On Jan 7, 2009, at 4:51 AM, Rambos Locker wrote: > It definitely something I'm looking at Ron. There were 700 mostly > international paddlers competing at that event in the Cook Islands > over > 10 days and all of them are potential customers as they want to see > themselves competing and relive the fun they had at the event. The > organizers employed me to shoot video from a jet ski and land to play > back at the presentations and pubs on a big projection screen each > nite > to attract the paddlers to the sponsors venue, the Trader Jacks Bar > and > Restaurant. The footage was raw straight from the camera so it just > played clip after clip and was actually pretty good. Then from all > that > footage I have to compile a DVD. > > But putting it online and charging per download would be cheaper for > everyone. Sure there is still the problem of people sharing downloads, > but they do the same with DVD's anyway. But if it was say $2 per > download, I doubt many people would bother copying and sharing it. > > It also gives the sponsors more exposure by having subtle ads > within the > video, which could also be another income stream. > > I'm already capturing video of events for Surf ski, outrigger paddling > and stand up paddling and supplying footage or finished media to other > web sites, but it's kind of specialized and I have participated in > these > events for over 20 years. If I had to video a dog show, I would not > have > a clue on what to do, so I don't see how a community effort would be > advantageous. > > But I'm all ears. > > Cheers Rambo > > Cheers Rambo > http://rambos-locker.blogspot.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:videoblogg...@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ron Watson > Sent: Wednesday, 7 January 2009 7:12 PM > To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Re: Profit sharing for film crews > > > > > most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with > > that and they're not related to your project in any case > > Neither do mine, but they are all related, if your passion is video. > > There are stories to be told about all kinds of things - dog sports, > outrigger racing, geocaching, brewing beer, I've touched on a couple > of things that some people here have interest in. > > What if I were in Fiji during a large outrigger event and decided to > shoot it? > > If rambo were aware of it and selling pay to play short videos for > say, $2, then I could have a 50/50 split with him. A dollar a video. > Video gets 200 hits, I make a hundred bucks - do this with rambo, a > dog sport site, a brewmeister, a winery, a gaming community, or some > other well developed community interest that is doing pay to play, > and you've made yourself a thousand dollars for 20 minutes of video > on ten outings. > > There's no reason this could not be done with ad revenue either. I > should be able to do well with ads placed on free video and our live > radio (online) and audio podcasts. > > I don't think it's a bad deal, and it's residual. It keeps coming in > if the community has staying power. > > Of course it's not there yet, nobody's doing pay to play, but we will > be, and we'll be doing it faster and better if people like those on > this list are involved. > > And let's be serious, it's not like there's anything coming down the > pike from Coca Cola or GM for advertising on independent media. > > The future of independent media is to hook up with cottage media > entities and independent mom & pop operations and fill their needs > for content and advertising. > > I don't want to beat a dead horse, though, and I can see that there's > little interest on the list in entertaining the concept of making > money through profit sharing with community developers and small > businesses. > > It's a bummer though. It could be the big thing that makes producing > independent video profitable, or at least not a total money pit. It > also could put different kinds of creative people in the same room > and on the same page fostering who knows what kind of exciting > possibilities. > > I appreciate your responses, Kath. > > Good luck in all you do. > > peace, > Ron Watson > http://k9disc. <http://k9disc.blip.tv> blip.tv > http://k9disc. <http://k9disc.com> com > http://discdogradio <http://discdogradio.com> .com > http://pawsitivevyb <http://pawsitivevybe.com> e.com > > On Jan 7, 2009, at 12:29 AM, Kath O'Donnell wrote: > > > 2009/1/7 Ron Watson <k9d...@mac.com <mailto:k9disc%40mac.com> >: > > > > > > Well, have you found something that is your passion that is for > > sale? > > > > > > > most of my passions don't make any money (wrt video) but I'm ok with > > that and they're not related to your project in any case > > > > maybe ask people on the dog lists - the true fans in your area as u > > mentioned? or if they don't make videos - have some training > workshops > > and teach them first. Brook had some great advice. > > > > the idea would work. I know an ex-colleague did this in late > > 90s-current with AFL football videos on a website & is making a > great > > living out of it - granted he was a tv sports cameraman and knew all > > the teams & players and advertisers & could partner with the tv > > broadcaster too + go on o/s tours etc and do exclusive interviews > etc > > for a subscription site that many people subscribe to. (I'm not a > fan > > myself so don't pay for his videos). at the time he just hooked up > > with a web person to build the site. another of the station's weekly > > shows (produced externally but aligned with the station) did a > similar > > site for weather, surfing & fishing reports (video/text) & special > > reports (as he's a leader in this field in his region - he's a known > > personality for past 30years or so on tv) in late 90s too & is still > > going. > > > > best of luck with it. I'm sure you'll do well. > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
