Despite my OP on the Streamys being rather negative, and my tendency to be negative and unproductive in general, I still care rather a lot about this industry. We are well beyond the era where I would get caught up in fears that the industrial aspirations of some would harm the non-industry side of vlogging andits non-commercial potential for humans. We got through the era of insane hype and buzz, we avoided the potential tyranny of the first generation of would be new media moguls with their studio or network aspirations. We avoided the spectacle of seeing everybody sell out or go insane with product placement etc.
Unfortunately most of those things were avoided due to stupid failures on the part of various people and companies that believed too much in the hype, had no clue what they were doing, or just went in the wrong direction. This may not have had too detrimental an effect on the industry if everything else had been in place to make the industry succeed and grow on the scale people expected it should, and if existing media were unable to harness internet distribution for themselves within a reasonable timeframe. But that hasnt been the case, it was always going to be a steep uphill battle, with everything from sponsorship to promotion to audience numbers and show budgets. Time, innovative solutions, a lot of talented people working well together, and plenty of good luck were needed, along with the creation of some vehicles to carry this stuff onwards. I dont think this has happened, there are talented people with passion and some useful companies and services, but as an outsider it doesnt look like the vehicles that have been built are really fit for purpose. There is no way that I am well-informed enough to really know if the International Academy of Web Television is effective, how it works, what it even is in practical terms, and I am out of date regarding what other partnerships/institutions may have been formed to further the industry. But this trainwreck of a Streamys makes me want to know. I know that if it was down to me I would overreact, assume the brands and institutions involved with the streams are soiled to an extent that apologies and 'will do better next time' is not enough, press the self-destruct button, start again with something untainted whilst taking account of the lessons learnt from the past. I dont know who or how many, but somewhere there are people or companies that should never be allowed near the image of the industry again, they dropped a ball that was so important they should not get a second chance. Personally I feel that one possible way for the industry to differentiate and succeed, now that the traditional media are reaching internet eyeballs, is to play on other aspects and potential advantages of being on the web. Its way easier said than done, but surely the internet gives people ways to organise differently to the old models, ways to come together and achieve something without passing responsibility for a few people or entities that may stumble, ways to harness the very thin line between creators and viewers that exists on the web. Not easy, plenty of perils and downsides, but Im surprised new structures havent been experimented with. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Adam Quirk <qu...@...> wrote: > > Hulu, Netflix, Youtube, Blip, Vimeo, a hundred other web video service > providers, and thousands of web video producers would disagree. I've been > making a living doing web video production and editing for the past two > years. It's still fledgling, but it's an industry. > > And yeah, this was bad for everyone involved. People are rightfully pissed. > > On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:15 PM, brook hinton <bhin...@...> wrote: > > > A thought re "bad for the industry" > > > > There is no "industry". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >