These types of things have been started on less. I know of whole companies started with a single Tweet.
Call them the IROX Awards. Jim On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 5:35 PM, Rupert Howe <rup...@twittervlog.tv> wrote: > > > :) > And both in the right spirit, bringing the right attitude, more social > & level, without the nastiness of tone & the money issues. > > > On 16 Apr 2010, at 00:26, Roxanne Darling wrote: > > > LOL! Irina brings the drama and fun factor and I sure as hell can > > organize. > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 1:13 PM, Rupert Howe > > <rup...@twittervlog.tv<rupert%40twittervlog.tv>> > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> I thought earlier today that Irina should have been organising the > >> Streamys. Now I realise that Irina & Rox is the dream team. Someone > >> should tell them. > >> > >> > >> On 15 Apr 2010, at 23:57, Roxanne Darling wrote: > >> > >>> Irina: agreed on the dubious pay for play and "it feels good to be > >>> recognized for hard work." > >>> Rupert: agree that having more women involve might have helped and > >>> tech > >>> should have been the "given." > >>> Quirk: "People are rightfully pissed." Yeah. > >>> Mark: Disrespecting the audience is a clear problem, I agree. If you > >>> are > >>> going to make it R-rated, it's your choice, though you better pre- > >>> announce > >>> that. > >>> > >>> As a group, internet video has so much potential. But many of those > >>> who are > >>> inspired to take the lead on these things also seem to have serious > >>> issues > >>> with maturity and basic event promotion competence. I produced a > >>> podcamp > >>> here in 2008 - over 400 attended live and thousands more via > >>> livestream. > >>> There were no streakers or swear words and wow what a great time we > >>> had! > >>> Aunties were blogging by the end of the 2 days and our tag hit #1 on > >>> Twitter > >>> and Flickr - from a big crowd of newbies. We did no traditional > >>> marketing or > >>> advertising - all via social networks and WOM. So I know this can > >>> all be > >>> done using the tools we love and sharing the ideas we know are > >>> relevant and > >>> in demand. > >>> > >>> I detached from being part of the in crowd years ago, both because > >>> of the > >>> geographical isolation in Hawaii (I just can't drop in to the LA and > >>> NYC > >>> meetings and those crowds seem to forget there are others who don't > >>> show up > >>> in the F2F events) as well as not fitting in one of the mainstream > >>> categories. Surely our 4+ years, 760 episodes, nearly 3 M views, and > >>> literally saving a few lives has a place somewhere? :-) > >>> > >>> Often a big fail can open things up for enlightenment. I'm putting > >>> my vote > >>> in that direction. > >>> > >>> Now, onto brighter and happier thoughts! > >>> > >>> Love, > >>> > >>> Rox > >>> > >>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Irina > >>> <irina...@gmail.com<irinaski%40gmail.com><irinaski > > >>> %40gmail.com>> > >> wrote: > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> chance's story showed that charging nominees for participation is a > >>>> dubious > >>>> undertaking -- since without nominees there would be no industry > >>>> and no > >>>> "award show" in the first place. second of all, making anyone feel > >>>> left out > >>>> (since this is the web, which is pretty much an all-inclusive > >>>> type of > >>>> environment) with special entrances and seating is another weird > >>>> idea. > >>>> > >>>> work on getting sponsors to pay for things so people dont have to. > >>>> thats > >>>> what sponsors are for. ergo, free food and liquor if i can help it. > >>>> > >>>> trust me, people brought their friends and kids to the vloggies and > >>>> the > >>>> winnies too. because its fun. and because it feels good to be > >>>> recognized > >>>> for > >>>> hard work. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 12:11 AM, Rupert Howe > >>>> <rup...@twittervlog.tv <rupert%40twittervlog.tv> <rupert% > 40twittervlog.tv><rupert% > >> 40twittervlog.tv>> > >> > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> I'm also glad that it wasn't like the Oscars. LA & NY people > >>>>> consolidating their power. > >>>>> > >>>>> And Chance's personal story is depressing, but really... the whole > >>>>> thing reads like a Greek tragedy. Pride before the fall. I mean, > >>>>> he > >>>>> *really* thought he was going to the Oscars?? And brought all his > >>>>> friends and colleagues... and their children?! WTF. > >>>>> > >>>>> And I can't agree with the "It's terrible for the industry!" > >>>>> people. > >>>>> It will be *good* for the profile of web video, not bad. I've seen > >>>>> enough intentionally controversial and offensive theatre in London > >>>>> and > >>>>> Edinburgh to know that controversy drives box office success, mass > >>>>> media interest and general awareness. Even if the show itself is a > >>>>> train wreck. > >>>>> > >>>>> So - it might be bad for the reputation of Tubefilter and the > >>>>> producers and the chances of getting sponsors for next year's > >>>>> awards - > >>>>> but not bad for web TV. More people will hear about web shows > >>>>> now - > >>>>> in the knowledge that there was a big Awards ceremony for them. > >>>>> > >>>>> In everything I've read, everyone's giving them a pass on the tech > >>>>> problems and castigating them for the tone. Come on. > >>>>> > >>>>> They should be more ashamed of the tech problems than the poor > >>>>> taste. > >>>>> > >>>>> I mean, they were obviously *trying* to be 'edgy'. They got what > >>>>> they > >>>>> wanted, like ego-crazed geek frat boys. The whole thing reeks of > >>>>> not > >>>>> enough women in charge. What a surprise. > >>>>> > >>>>> But surely the one thing that should have been *flawless* is the > >>>>> technical delivery. > >>>>> > >>>>> It's not that hard to get sound right. You just have to hire a > >>>>> live > >>>>> event sound engineer who knows what they're doing - and a live > >>>>> broadcast mixer & director & engineer who know what they're > >>>>> doing (I > >>>>> mean, it's LA, for God's sake). > >>>>> > >>>>> And do rehearsals and sound checks. And if you can't do proper > >>>>> rehearsals in the venue, don't use the venue. If they were > >>>>> expecting > >>>>> 750,000 viewers, it should have been ALL about the flawless live > >>>>> streaming of the content and perfect sound, surely - not about > >>>>> ohmygosh the Orpheum Theatre and the self-satisfied LA types in > >>>>> the > >>>>> room? > >>>>> > >>>>> And above all, given that it's about web video, it should have > >>>>> been > >>>>> short. > >>>>> > >>>>> Rupert > >>>>> http://twittervlog.tv > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On 12 Apr 2010, at 23:17, elbowsofdeath wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> So I hear the Streamy's this year were a disaster in several key > >>>>>> ways and have gotten all the wrong sort of attention as a result. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> There is some concern that it has damaged the image of the > >>>>>> 'industry', although it may be easy to overstate this point. It > >>>>>> certainly didnt help, but the 'industry' has enough other > >>>>>> problems > >>>>>> too, although anything that harms potential sponsorship by > >>>>>> appearing > >>>>>> to confirm potential sponsors worst fears (eg uncontrolled > >>>>>> juvenile > >>>>>> amateurish smut tarnishing their brands) sounds bad to me. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Unfortunately there is a part of me that is wildly entertained > >>>>>> and > >>>>>> amused by the streamyfail, considering it to be some kind of > >>>>>> justice > >>>>>> on a certain level. This isnt fair, as no doubt lots of blameless > >>>>>> hard working people have been hurt by the streamyfail, but I > >>>>>> suppose > >>>>>> its a natural consequence of my disdain for the way some of the > >>>>>> more > >>>>>> visible parts of the 'industry' went, shoddy emulation of the > >>>>>> existing media. What better way to symbolise two worlds > >>>>>> colliding, > >>>>>> and so much wasted potential, than to have a slick awards show > >>>>>> humbled by technical glitches and naked people. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Steve Elbows > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> ------------------------------------ > >>>>> > >>>>> Yahoo! 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