yep.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:20 AM, Quirk <qu...@wreckandsalvage.com> wrote:

> Yes. An awards show sucked. Who knew.
>
> The meat of the matter is that it showed the Hollywoodyist of the
> Hollywoodys, not the best web video. It was about commercial success and not
> creativity.
>
> They showed people that web video is about selling to the highest bidder,
> getting sponsors, brand integration, and not changing the TV paradigm. From
> all of the documentation and promotion I've seen this was their main
> purpose, and in that way they were successful.
>
> I'm an IAWTV member and voted for the streamys, tried to shift the focus
> ever so slightly toward creativity and away from mindless tv wannabe
> bullshit. I'm hoping to get a group email from the top brass asking what can
> be done to evolve the organization. If they don't make some big changes, I
> don't see the point of their existence.
>
> Sent via dynamic wireless technology device
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Sullivan <sullele...@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:33:31
> To: <videoblogging@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Streamy disaster
>
> what will help web video is better web video.
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Mark Villaseñor <
> videoblogyahoogr...@tailtrex.tv> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Rupert Howe: "And I can't agree with the `It's terrible for the
> industry!'
> > people. It will be *good* for the profile of web video, not bad.
> > ...controversy drives box office success, mass media interest and general
> > awareness."
> >
> > Hi Rupert:
> > Just a few thoughts...
> >
> > There is a difference between manufacturing controversies, and playing
> off
> > organic substance that happens to be controversial. The former has proven
> > disastrous time and again, in part, because an audience knows when it's
> > being manipulated -- played cheaply (and consequently react in the
> > negative,
> > sooner or later). Moreover, CREATING controversy for the sake of
> attention
> > is no less a tactic used by countless street walkers -- and look how well
> > THEY are respected from an industry standpoint.
> >
> > This begs the question: how do we in web media (collectively) wish to
> have
> > the public and advertisers perceive our work? As credible and
> substantive,
> > offering content unavailable elsewhere? Or as attention whores who will
> > stoop to depths to attract eyes, with antics better suited for mud
> > wrestling
> > and porn wanna-bes rather than garnering profitability?
> >
> > 911 jokes... Mother Teresa jabs... (Chris Hardwick:) "I have a finger in
> my
> >
> > ass." "I am so looking forward to mouth herpes." Idiots pull pants
> down...
> > And the hits just kept on comin, and coming and coming some more!
> >
> > "...controversy drives box office success, mass media interest and
> general
> > awareness." Yet this year's Streamys did none of that, not even close!
> >
> > Instead the program showed a stellar way-ta-sustain the stereotype that
> web
> >
> > debauchery knows no bounds; nothing being off-limits. It showed potential
> > advertisers and sponsors they are right to remain cautious of web-visual
> > media. The event demonstrate how to alienate potential viewers with real
> > spending power, for the sake of eye balls that mean diddlie to a balance
> > sheet.
> >
> > The image this latest Streamy conveyed is unsustainable and weak,
> juvenile
> > and short-sighted; pathetically misguided and woefully out-of-touch.
> > Clearly
> > devoid of seriousness, cutting-edge practicality, forward looking
> > confidence
> > or fostering broader mainstream financial patronage. It was an utter
> joke,
> > and dragged all of us down with every awkward attempt at being slick --
> > rather than aiming for legitimacy!
> >
> > "...Good for the profile of web video, not bad." Hmmm, yeah, well you are
> > certainly entitled to opinion. But considering mainstream media ignored
> the
> >
> > event, and independent web commentary has been widely negative. Your take
> > isn't supported by the evidence.
> >
> > The inescapable truth is that the 2010 Streamys were total amateur night
> --
> >
> > technical glitches notwithstanding. Now if the production's intent was to
> > show industry immaturity, and a complete disregard for the BUSINESS side
> of
> >
> > the web video business? Then your perspective has a foothold, but not
> > otherwise.
> >
> > Bottom-line, disrespect the audience and we'll get disrespected! That is;
> > all the way to the bank where our accounts languish, because we're too
> cool
> >
> > to collectively admit error and do better.
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Mark Villaseñor,
> > http://www.TailTrex.tv
> > Canine Adventures For Charity - sm
> > http://www.SOAR508.org
> >
> >
> >
>
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