We will be discussing some of these issues at the National Media Market's pre-conference workshop on Sunday. The Higher Education Digital Video Summit which was held in March discussed PPR and the fact that "most" HE institutions didn't need them. If we can come up with a couple of models that work for most institutions, then it will be easier on both the distributor and the buyer.
Personally, I don't like to purchase collections and would rather spend my money on titles that I know will be used. I don't like paying over and over again for a title so I'd rather purchase in perpetuity. That way, I don't have to worry about whether a title will disappear in a few years (and many have). I don't have to be concerned about keeping track of expiring licenses either. We do host locally, but are now starting to put everything on our statewide network so that those institutions who license the content will have access and won't have to worry about having the expertise to host locally. I'll also be talking about our model in NJ at another pre-conference workshop on Sunday prior to the NMM. It's slow growing and from your survey Jonathan, it's probably a good snapshot. Some of the issues holding people back are terms of license, hosting locally, collections that don't entirely meet the needs of the institution and moving to another format. Change sometimes is slower in academia. I predict it will grow. We currently have 335 streaming titles in our collection and it accounts for 57% of our total circulation. That's because I purchase streaming titles that are needed to support the academic programs and thus are used. Jane B. Hutchison Associate Director Past President Instruction & Research Technology CCUMC: Leadership in Media & Academic Technology William Paterson University http://www.ccumc.org Wayne, NJ 07470 973-720-2980 (work) 973-418-7727 (cell) 973-720-2585 (facs) hutchis...@wpunj.edu From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Marilyn Nasserden Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:17 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results My experience is similar to Christine's, that is, we have and really like ASP and FMG - and they are convenient and cost-effective and are already well used even though our subscriptions are fairly recent. The use of the video databases includes some classroom use but likely more general use by students to obtain information on a topic in a similar manner to how books are used. Some of the titles that our faculty have requested to support teaching have been included in these resources so we haven't needed to acquire those specific titles individually. However many are not so we really need both models: database subscriptions as well as the ability to acquire individual titles. One of my goals is to move from acquiring individual titles on DVD to acquiring digital video files and working with our other staff in the library system to develop a plan to get the infrastructure in place to provide access to the digital video files. Developing the infrastructure takes resources which we don't seem to have enough of at the moment and therefore it hasn't been accomplished yet. The other road block is the higher cost of PPR for digital video files and often the need to track the license term. Marilyn CROWLEY, CHRISTINE wrote: I'm using ASP and FMG already and will definitely be doing Ambrose this coming year. They seem to have good prices for what they offer and the licenses are not unduly complicated. The content is terrific and covers broad spectrum of interests. I am way more interested in collections rather than trying to track down and keep track of individual titles and varying lengths of licensing--I simply don't have the staff to do this. Christine Crowley Dean of Learning Resources Northwest Vista College 3535 N. Ellison Dr. San Antonio, TX 78251 210.486.4572 office 210.486.4504 fax ccrowl...@alamo.edu Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc LIVE UNITED ________________________________ From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of Jonathan Miller Sent: Tue 8/24/2010 5:15 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results Dear Gary Well, yeah. And if we offered to give it away that would be even more popular. (well maybe, not so many of you took us up on that offer, actually) A) there may have been problems with how some of the questions in the survey were constructed, but not, I think, the ones I reference and report on the results of below. B) The main companies that are streaming from their servers to users now, as far as I know, are not charging extremely high prices. Who is offering streaming now at "Exorbitant" prices and any of the usage is from them? Or are you saying FMG and Ambrose and New Day are charging exhorbitant prices? Is Alexander Street? Please be specific. Also you don't respond to the figures we DID collect, however un scientific (or do you know of a better scientific source of such info/data? I don't). So, let's round it off and try it this way: half or less of you are currently streaming media (from our sites or your own) And about half of the videolib universe would like to stream, when they do stream, from our sites - and half of you would like to / will / are able to do it yourselves. Does that sound right to you? AND, of the current media usage by video lib people out there - only a small part of it is streaming or digital so far, and most of it (well over 75%) is still DVD Do you those three 'conclusions' sound reason able to you? Thanks! JM Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com -----Original Message----- From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of ghand...@library.berkeley.edu Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:04 PM To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results Hey Jon Interesting (if inconclusive) stuff. There are some logical flaws in this survey (and your conclusion) I think. The survey responses are, of course, based on services, content, and technology currently available. They're also based on current pricing schemes. The real question to ask, I think, would be "how many of you would opt for subscribing to remote (i.e. vendor-side) access if: 1) network delivery were relatively stable for multiple concurrent users 2) image resolution were sufficient for study-level access 3) continuing access to individual titles were relatively stable (i.e. we could be sure that the carpet wouldn't be whisked out from under us whenever distributor/filmmaker contracts expired 4) pricing was flexible enough to allow both single-semester and longer term-access And the real kicker: how many would get into this business more earnestly (either for the short or long haul) if currently unrealistic pricing structure for digital delivery (including the necessity of paying over and over for access to the same title) didn't preclude it. gary handman Dear videlib universe As some of you noticed we recently did a survey asking some questions of our customers (hopefully you all ARE customers!) and some of the answers might be interesting. So far we received 76 responses. Of these: 1) 60% of you do NOT license streaming or download rights (40% do) 2) of those 82% license rights for more than one semester (one year term or longer) 3) so that is .82 x .40 = just 33% of you (?) license rights (for a year or more) 4) additionally, when you do license rights, 59% is from the distributor's web site, and 41% from your own or a local server. 5) broken down further: Of the 59% who do license rights from the distributor's web site, 12% do so "as needed" for a semester or one class, and 88% do so for a year or more Which, if my math and logic is correct(dicey) - that means that Only 59% of 82% of 40% of you a) license rights for a year or more AND b) access the digital files from the distributor's web site. Which is (Drum roll): only 19% of you actually need us to make available this sort of service? Interesting (?) results # 2: We asked what percentage of your media usage and expenditure is for online/streaming, vs. DVD purchases. Re usage: 85% of you said 20% or LESS 74% said 90% or MORE (44% said 100%!) Re expenditures: 81% said 20% or Less 78% said 90% or More I know it is a small and non-scientific sample. Maybe we should pretend it never happened. But - any thoughts on this? Thanks! Best, Jonathan Jonathan Miller President Icarus Films 32 Court Street, 21st Floor Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA tel 1.718.488.8900 fax 1.718.488.8642 www.IcarusFilms.com jmil...@icarusfilms.com VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley 510-643-8566 ghand...@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." --Francois Truffaut VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. ________________________________ VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. -- Marilyn Nasserden Head, Fine Arts & Visual Resources Libraries and Cultural Resources 25 MacKimmie Library Block University of Calgary 2500 University Drive NW Calgary, Alberta, CANADA marilyn.nasser...@ucalgary.ca Phone: (403) 220-3795
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
