I think streaming is the new PPR, but this time it is something HE institutions might actually need/want. It is no secret that PPR rights are not often needed by institutions as most films were used only in classes, but streaming rights are something many institutions probably will want. I don't think there will ever be a one size or pricing delivery model fits all solution, but I think if institutions and distributors work together they can at least narrow the pricing and delivery issues. One big problem right now is that the major rights holders of feature films which will presumably be heavily used in classes are not even in on the discussion.
Jessica On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Hutchison, Jane <hutchis...@wpunj.edu>wrote: > We will be discussing some of these issues at the National Media Market’s > pre-conference workshop on Sunday. The Higher Education Digital Video > Summit which was held in March discussed PPR and the fact that “most” HE > institutions didn’t need them. If we can come up with a couple of models > that work for most institutions, then it will be easier on both the > distributor and the buyer. > > > > Personally, I don’t like to purchase collections and would rather spend my > money on titles that I know will be used. I don’t like paying over and over > again for a title so I’d rather purchase in perpetuity. That way, I don’t > have to worry about whether a title will disappear in a few years (and many > have). I don’t have to be concerned about keeping track of expiring > licenses either. We do host locally, but are now starting to put everything > on our statewide network so that those institutions who license the content > will have access and won’t have to worry about having the expertise to host > locally. I’ll also be talking about our model in NJ at another > pre-conference workshop on Sunday prior to the NMM. > > > > It’s slow growing and from your survey Jonathan, it’s probably a good > snapshot. Some of the issues holding people back are terms of license, > hosting locally, collections that don’t entirely meet the needs of the > institution and moving to another format. Change sometimes is slower in > academia. I predict it will grow. We currently have 335 streaming titles > in our collection and it accounts for 57% of our total circulation. That’s > because I purchase streaming titles that are needed to support the academic > programs and thus are used. > > > > Jane B. Hutchison > > Associate Director Past > President > > Instruction & Research Technology CCUMC: > Leadership in Media & Academic Technology > > William Paterson University > http://www.ccumc.org > > Wayne, NJ 07470 > > 973-720-2980 (work) > > 973-418-7727 (cell) > > 973-720-2585 (facs) > > hutchis...@wpunj.edu > > > > *From:* videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto: > videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Marilyn Nasserden > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 25, 2010 1:17 PM > > *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] Some survey results > > > > My experience is similar to Christine's, that is, we have and really like > ASP and FMG - and they are convenient and cost-effective and are already > well used even though our subscriptions are fairly recent. The use of the > video databases includes some classroom use but likely more general use by > students to obtain information on a topic in a similar manner to how books > are used. Some of the titles that our faculty have requested to support > teaching have been included in these resources so we haven't needed to > acquire those specific titles individually. However many are not so we > really need both models: database subscriptions as well as the ability to > acquire individual titles. One of my goals is to move from acquiring > individual titles on DVD to acquiring digital video files and working with > our other staff in the library system to develop a plan to get the > infrastructure in place to provide access to the digital video files. > Developing the infrastructure takes resources which we don't seem to have > enough of at the moment and therefore it hasn't been accomplished yet. The > other road block is the higher cost of PPR for digital video files and often > the need to track the license term. > Marilyn > > CROWLEY, CHRISTINE wrote: > > I'm using ASP and FMG already and will definitely be doing Ambrose this > coming year. They seem to have good prices for what they offer and the > licenses are not unduly complicated. The content is terrific and covers > broad spectrum of interests. I am way more interested in collections rather > than trying to track down and keep track of individual titles and varying > lengths of licensing--I simply don't have the staff to do this. > > > > Christine Crowley > > Dean of Learning Resources > > Northwest Vista College > > 3535 N. Ellison Dr. > > San Antonio, TX 78251 > > 210.486.4572 office > > 210.486.4504 fax > > ccrowl...@alamo.edu > > Northwest Vista College is one of the Alamo Colleges > > www.alamo.edu/nvc/lrc > > LIVE UNITED > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu on behalf of Jonathan Miller > > Sent: Tue 8/24/2010 5:15 PM > > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results > > > > > > > > Dear Gary > > > > Well, yeah. And if we offered to give it away that would be even more > > popular. (well maybe, not so many of you took us up on that offer, actually) > > > > > > A) there may have been problems with how some of the questions in the survey > > were constructed, but not, I think, the ones I reference and report on the > > results of below. > > > > B) The main companies that are streaming from their servers to users now, as > > far as I know, are not charging extremely high prices. Who is offering > > streaming now at "Exorbitant" prices and any of the usage is from them? Or > > are you saying FMG and Ambrose and New Day are charging exhorbitant prices? > > Is Alexander Street? Please be specific. > > > > Also you don't respond to the figures we DID collect, however un scientific > > (or do you know of a better scientific source of such info/data? I don't). > > > > So, let's round it off and try it this way: half or less of you are > > currently streaming media (from our sites or your own) > > > > And about half of the videolib universe would like to stream, when they do > > stream, from our sites - and half of you would like to / will / are able to > > do it yourselves. Does that sound right to you? > > > > AND, of the current media usage by video lib people out there - only a small > > part of it is streaming or digital so far, and most of it (well over 75%) is > > still DVD > > > > Do you those three 'conclusions' sound reason able to you? > > > > Thanks! > > > > JM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jonathan Miller > > President > > Icarus Films > > 32 Court Street, 21st Floor > > Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA > > > > tel 1.718.488.8900 > > fax 1.718.488.8642 > > www.IcarusFilms.com > > jmil...@icarusfilms.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > > [mailto:videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu > <videolib-boun...@lists.berkeley.edu>] On Behalf Of > > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:04 PM > > To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu > > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Some survey results > > > > Hey Jon > > > > Interesting (if inconclusive) stuff. There are some logical flaws in this > > survey (and your conclusion) I think. The survey responses are, of course, > > based on services, content, and technology currently available. > > They're also based on current pricing schemes. > > > > The real question to ask, I think, would be "how many of you would opt for > > subscribing to remote (i.e. vendor-side) access if: 1) network delivery > > were relatively stable for multiple concurrent users 2) image resolution > > were sufficient for study-level access 3) continuing access to individual > > titles were relatively stable (i.e. we could be sure that the carpet > > wouldn't be whisked out from under us whenever distributor/filmmaker > > contracts expired 4) pricing was flexible enough to allow both > > single-semester and longer term-access > > > > And the real kicker: how many would get into this business more earnestly > > (either for the short or long haul) if currently unrealistic pricing > > structure for digital delivery (including the necessity of paying over and > > over for access to the same title) didn't preclude it. > > > > gary handman > > > > > > Dear videlib universe > > > > As some of you noticed we recently did a survey asking some questions > > of our customers (hopefully you all ARE customers!) and some of the > > answers might be interesting. > > > > So far we received 76 responses. > > > > Of these: > > > > 1) 60% of you do NOT license streaming or download rights (40% do) > > > > 2) of those 82% license rights for more than one semester (one year > > term or > > longer) > > > > 3) so that is .82 x .40 = just 33% of you (?) license rights (for a > > year or > > more) > > > > 4) additionally, when you do license rights, 59% is from the > > distributor's web site, and 41% from your own or a local server. > > > > 5) broken down further: > > > > Of the 59% who do license rights from the distributor's web site, 12% > > do so "as needed" for a semester or one class, and 88% do so for a > > year or more > > > > Which, if my math and logic is correct(dicey) - that means that > > > > Only 59% of 82% of 40% of you a) license rights for a year or more AND > > b) access the digital files from the distributor's web site. > > > > Which is (Drum roll): only 19% of you actually need us to make > > available this sort of service? > > > > > > > > Interesting (?) results # 2: > > > > We asked what percentage of your media usage and expenditure is for > > online/streaming, vs. DVD purchases. > > > > Re usage: > > > > 85% of you said 20% or LESS > > 74% said 90% or MORE (44% said 100%!) > > > > Re expenditures: > > > > 81% said 20% or Less > > 78% said 90% or More > > > > > > > > I know it is a small and non-scientific sample. Maybe we should > > pretend it never happened. But - any thoughts on this? > > > > Thanks! > > > > Best, > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > Jonathan Miller > > President > > Icarus Films > > 32 Court Street, 21st Floor > > Brooklyn, NY 11201 USA > > > > tel 1.718.488.8900 > > fax 1.718.488.8642 > > www.IcarusFilms.com > > jmil...@icarusfilms.com > > > > > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of > > issues relating to the selection, evaluation, > > acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current > > and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It > > is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for > > video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between > > libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors. > > > > > > > > > > Gary Handman > > Director > > Media Resources Center > > Moffitt Library > > UC Berkeley > > > > 510-643-8566 > > ghand...@library.berkeley.edu > > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC > > > > "I have always preferred the reflection of life to life itself." > > --Francois Truffaut > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > > distributors. > > > > > > > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > > > > > > -- > > Marilyn Nasserden > > Head, Fine Arts & Visual Resources > > Libraries and Cultural Resources > > 25 MacKimmie Library Block > > University of Calgary > > 2500 University Drive NW > > Calgary, Alberta, CANADA > > > > marilyn.nasser...@ucalgary.ca > > Phone: (403) 220-3795 > > > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues > relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, > preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and > related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective > working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication > between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and > distributors. > >
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
