It is not the open basses which are doubled. But obviously (if
anything is obvious) the courses on the fingerboard would be double.
What we don't know for sure is whether the 4th and 5th were octave
strung or in unison.
Monica
----- Original Message -----
From: [1]Martyn Hodgson
To: [2]Stuart Walsh
Cc: [3]Monica Hall ; [4]Vihuelalist
Sent: Monday, August 31, 2009 1:40 PM
Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee or rather Chittarra
atiorbata
Stuart,
Regarding wether the CA basses were doubled at the octave, the 1651
illustration of Granata's CA shows pegs for 5 double courses on the
fingerboard and 8 single (relatively short as compared with a theorbo)
basses. In short, the instrument was strung like a theorbo and
contemporary archlute with single basses. As you'll know from earlier
in this thread, there is at least as strong a case for the basses to be
at the upper octave and in this case no octave doubling would be
present anyway.
Martyn
On Sun, 30/8/09, Stuart Walsh <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
From: Stuart Walsh <s.wa...@ntlworld.com>
Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Guitarre theorbee or rather Chittarra
atiorbata
To: "Roman Turovsky" <lu...@polyhymnion.org>
Cc: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, "Vihuelalist"
<vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Sunday, 30 August, 2009, 4:55 PM
Roman Turovsky wrote:
>>> There is just one further aspect which I haven't explored. Two
books, one by Abatessa and one by Michaeli include instructions for
tuning the 5-course guitar to the "arpetta". It is not clear what
this is except that it apparently has 8 strings. Abatessa seems to
imply that it is another instrument - a small harp perhaps, but
Micheli's instructions seem to imply that it is some sort of attachment
to the guitar.. James Tyler mentions this on p.59 of his book and
says there is a drawing of such an instrument in an 18th century
Portuguese manuscript where it is referred to as a "tyorba
christalina". Apparently there is such an instrument in the Victoria
and Albert Museum.
>>>
>>> I don't recall having seen it. Has anyone else?
>>>
>>> Monica
>>>
>> I've been in the V&A a couple of times fairly recently and I didn't
notice such a thing. Maybe someone has the V&A catalogue and can check
that for instruments not on display. Could - tuning the 5-course guitar
to the "arpetta" - just mean tuning a guitar with the help of an
"arpetta" (whatever that was).
>>
>>
>> Stuart
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> Unless this means [5]http://www.torban.org/images/vallejo2.jpg
> RT
>
>
This image reminded me of something in Baines' "Musical Instruments".
There _is_ an instrument in the V&A (according to Baines) that has the
attachment that is shown in Roman's jpg. Perhaps it is the same
instrument. But it is much, much later... 1789-92, Rafael Vellejo
(V&A; 389-1871): six double courses and a board attached with 20 pegs
with 10 double courses of metal strings.
Stuart
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