All, of course, helped by these chords being in a lower position with the 
thicker frets.

M

--- On Sun, 11/10/09, Stewart McCoy <lu...@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

> From: Stewart McCoy <lu...@tiscali.co.uk>
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Chord I
> To: "Vihuela List" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
> Date: Sunday, 11 October, 2009, 9:13 PM
> Dear Monica,
> 
> Thank you for confirming what I had thought was the case,
> that this is
> the standard fingering for the A major chord in
> 17th-century guitar
> books:
> 
> ____a___
> _2__c___
> _1__c___
> _1__c___
> ____a___
> 
> That is the fingering I try to use now. The great advantage
> is that you
> can trill on the 2nd course using your 4th finger at the
> 3rd fret. You
> get plenty of leverage trilling between the 2nd and 4th
> fingers, more
> than you would trilling with the 3rd and 4th fingers.
> 
> There are many ways of fingering that A major chord. The
> commonest seen
> in modern guitar tutors is
> 
> ____a___
> _3__c___
> _2__c___
> _1__c___
> ____a___
> ________
> 
> That's OK if you have thin fingers, but there is always the
> danger that
> the 1st finger won't get close enough to the 2nd fret, and
> you'll get a
> buzz. One way of avoiding that, is to use this fingering:
> 
> ____a___
> _3__c___
> _1__c___
> _2__c___
> ____a___
> 
> which I sometimes use, particularly if hopping back and
> forth between
> chords of A and D major, because the 1st and 3rd fingers
> stay on the
> same string. Otherwise I go for the first fingering above.
> 
> By the way, exactly the same thing applies to the chord of
> G major on a
> renaissance lute:
> 
> ____a___
> ____a___
> _2__c___
> _1__c___
> _1__c___
> ____a___
> 
> is usually best, and as with the guitar, you can trill with
> your 4th
> finger, this time on the 3rd course.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Stewart McCoy.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu
> [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu]
> On
> Behalf Of Monica Hall
> Sent: 11 October 2009 15:22
> To: Rob MacKillop
> Cc: Vihuelalist
> Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Chord I
> 
>    That's very helpful and interesting what
> you say about the technique
>    being standard for blues and jazz. 
> There's obviously a long
> tradition
>    there.
> 
> 
> 
>    Monica
> 
>    ----- Original Message -----
> 
>    From: [1]Rob MacKillop
> 
>    To: [2]Monica Hall
> 
>    Cc: [3]Vihuelalist
> 
>    Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2009 1:42 PM
> 
>    Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Chord I
> 
>    I use the 2nd finger on the 2nd course,
> and the first finger on the
>    other two courses. I have no problem with
> the open first string
>    sounding. I show beginner-ish students
> this technique and invariable
>    they can't bend their first finger
> inwards at the first joint, but
> some
>    who have played blues and or jazz guitar
> before have no problem - it
> is
>    fairly standard technique for those
> styles.
> 
> 
> 
>    Rob
> 
>    2009/10/11 Monica Hall <[4]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
> 
>        This is a rather abstruse
> query.
>        In most Italian guitar
> tables of alfabeto chords which include
> the
>      left
>        hand fingering the
> indication is that Chord I is to be played
>      using a
>        half (or hinge) barre to
> stop the 4th and 3rd courses and the 2nd
>        finger to stop the 2nd
> course at the 2nd fret.
>                
>    0
>                
>    2    1
>                
>    2    1
>                
>    2    2
>                
>    0
>        This doesn't seem to me the
> most convenient way of doing it
>      especially
>        when combined with other
> chords and I always use 1st, 2nd and 3rd
>        fingers.
>        Ruiz de Ribayaz does give
> my preferred  fingering as an
>      alternative to
>        the Italian one.
>        Both Sanz and Murcia seem
> to think that the 4th course should be
>        stopped with the 1st finger
> and a 2nd finger half barre used to
>      stop
>        the 2nd and 3rd which seems
> a bit odd to me!
>        I wonder if Sanz is a
> misprint which Murcia has copied.
>        In the illustrations of the
> fingers stopping the chords on the
>        fingerboard in Sanz the
> standard Italian fingering is shown.
>        I just wonder how everyone
> else on this list usually fingers
> chord
>      I
>        and what the advantages are
> of the different possibilities.
>        Monica
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> 
> 
> 
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