Dear Lex,

   A particular commonly occurring situation requiring the bass line to be
   realised on the theorbo higher than the upper melodic line is where the
   tenor sings a notated e' (ie that on the lowest line of treble clef)
   but sounding an octave lower (ie the e in the bass clef) and the BC
   line has a low G# 6 (ie on bottom line of bass clef). If G natural is
   also frequently required in the piece (as often found) then on
   a theorbo in A (with 6 fingered courses as most usual historically)
   there is no low G# and the player is obliged to take the bass an octave
   higher - ie top space of the bass clef and thus higher than the
   singer's note. The situation is much the same where the tenor has a d
   and the theorbo BC is obliged to take a f# in the bass.
   Other types of specific examples include Caccini's 'Reggami per pieta'
   where the singer has a low F# which has to be played by the BC an
   octave higher since there are necessary low F naturals elsewhere in the
   piece.

   Chromatic notes are solved in the same way: by putting odd notes (or
   even an entire passage) up an octave - see Ballard 'Methode pour
   apprendre.... theorbe' (1660) page 10 especially which gives examples
   in staff notation and in tablature showing the necessary octave
   transposition for chromatic notes.

   rgds

   Martyn


   --- On Sat, 17/12/11, Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl> wrote:

     From: Lex Eisenhardt <eisenha...@planet.nl>
     Subject: Re: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return
     to earlier question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}
     To: "Monica Hall" <mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>, "Martyn Hodgson"
     <hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
     Cc: "Vihuelalist" <vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
     Date: Saturday, 17 December, 2011, 8:58

   Dear Martyn,
   Is there evidence for raising the bass on the theorbo, to even above
   the
   other voices? I understand that chromatic notes in the bass can be a
   problem, but do we know how they solved that?
   Lex
   ps could you please stop sending the whole thread of the discussion
   together
   with your newest posts?
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: "Martyn Hodgson" <[1]hodgsonmar...@yahoo.co.uk>
   To: "Monica Hall" <[2]mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk>
   Cc: "Vihuelalist" <[3]vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu>
   Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 9:46 AM
   Subject: [VIHUELA] Re: Strumming as basso continuo {was: Return to
   earlier
   question: {was: Agazzari guitar [was Re: Capona?]}
   >
   >   Thanks Monica,
   >
   >   But I still don't see, and you don't explain, how other changes
   (such
   >   as raising the bass an octave in a theorbo realisation) differs
   >   substantially from doing the same sort of thing on the guitar
   >
   >   As said, maybe we just have to agree to disagree......
   >
   >   rgds
   >
   >   Martyn

   --

References

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   2. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=mjlh...@tiscali.co.uk
   3. http://us.mc817.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=vihuela@cs.dartmouth.edu


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