James McCoy wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:55AM -0700, Ben Fritz wrote:
> > On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 8:03:06 AM UTC-5, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > >
> > > if has("autocmd")
> > > " Enable file type detection.
> > > filetype plugin indent on
> > >
> >
> > Don't common plugin managers require you to turn on filetype stuff at
> > a very specific location, e.g. *after* loading the plugin manager
> > functionality?
>
> By now, most of them do this automatically, but I still advocate against
> doing this before the vimrc is loaded since it causes non-obvious
> problems to users (and am annoyed that Ubuntu deviates from the way I've
> setup Debian's packaging in this regard).
>
> The reason this needs to be done is to for ftdetect scripts.
>
> Without doing the equivalent of
>
> :filetype off
> " Setup plugin manager
> " Re-run :filetype on, if needed
>
> any ftdetect scripts located in the runtime paths handled by the plugin
> manager wouldn't have their settings applied.
>
> Now, in Neovim we've enable filetype plugins and indent scripts by
> default. However, we also track whether they were enabled
> automatically, or modified by the user, so that "filetype plugin on" in
> the user's vimrc only enables plugins instead of acting like a no-op.
> You can see the discussion of the behavior/implementation at
> <https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/4223>.
Arent't users already executing the filetype command early in their
.vimrc? If a plugin manager can't handle that, it has a problem anyway.
It has always been in the vimrc_example.vim.
We could postpone the effect of the :filetype command, but that will
most likely cause problems for users who intentionally do it early and
then overrule some of it.
I think plugins should not use ftdetect/*.vim but execute the
autocommands that it would contain in the plugin. Is there any problem
with that?
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