On 2016-07-26, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> James McCoy wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 07:39:55AM -0700, Ben Fritz wrote:
> > > On Sunday, July 24, 2016 at 8:03:06 AM UTC-5, Bram Moolenaar wrote:
> > > >
> > > > if has("autocmd")
> > > > " Enable file type detection.
> > > > filetype plugin indent on
> > > >
> > >
> > > Don't common plugin managers require you to turn on filetype stuff at
> > > a very specific location, e.g. *after* loading the plugin manager
> > > functionality?
> >
> > By now, most of them do this automatically, but I still advocate against
> > doing this before the vimrc is loaded since it causes non-obvious
> > problems to users (and am annoyed that Ubuntu deviates from the way I've
> > setup Debian's packaging in this regard).
> >
> > The reason this needs to be done is to for ftdetect scripts.
> >
> > Without doing the equivalent of
> >
> > :filetype off
> > " Setup plugin manager
> > " Re-run :filetype on, if needed
> >
> > any ftdetect scripts located in the runtime paths handled by the plugin
> > manager wouldn't have their settings applied.
> >
> > Now, in Neovim we've enable filetype plugins and indent scripts by
> > default. However, we also track whether they were enabled
> > automatically, or modified by the user, so that "filetype plugin on" in
> > the user's vimrc only enables plugins instead of acting like a no-op.
> > You can see the discussion of the behavior/implementation at
> > <https://github.com/neovim/neovim/pull/4223>.
>
> Arent't users already executing the filetype command early in their
> .vimrc?
No. I execute the filetype command late in my vimrc so that some of
my BufRead autocommands will be executed before Vim's. I want
buffers to be initially configured by project, which means looking
at the full path to the file being opened, and then by filetype.
I turn _off_ filetype detection near the top of my vimrc in
environments where it's been turned on in some system vimrc.
Regards,
Gary
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