Yes, I somehow thought I had a third gen which is why I initially said it was no longer there, but my wife checked the model number nad it's definitely a second gen. I was planning all along to upgrade when the new Apple TV came out and I placed my order on Monday. Not sure when you guys get it in the States, here in Canada it said something about November 10.
-----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Alfaro Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:52 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store Hi Sieghard, I have both a second and third gen of the Apple TV and can confirm that YouTube no longer is available on the second gen, only on the third gen. It was there at one time but as you said, Apple removed it with one of their updates. Best regards, Rick Alfaro -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:23 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store Hi, OK, so I checked into this Youtube thing a bit more and on second generation Apple TV they are definitely gone, anybody who claims otherwise probably has a third generation Apple TV. I also found out that the third generation Apple TV which was originally released in March of 2012 had a small update (not sure what that was) and a Revision A was released in January of 2013. It appears that Youtube is still available on the third generation Apple TV and I thought that is what I had, but apparently I have only a second generation Apple TV. I sort of remembered this now because when the third generation Apple TV came out I was debating whether I should buy one, but I believe one of the few improvements was that it can stream in 1280P whereas the second gen can only do 720P and to me that was not very important. Anybody who wants to check, here are the actual model numbers which would tell you exactly which one you have including the first generation Apple TV which came out in 2007 and was available with a 40 Gb or 160 Gb hard drive and which probably not too many people have any more. Below the model information I am pasting two links which talk about the Youtube thing: Apple TV (1st generation) Year introduced: Early 2007 Color: Silver Capacity: 40 or 160 GB Model number on bottom: A1218 Model Identifier: AppleTV1,1 Ports and interfaces: • HDMI and component video (480P or 720P) • Optical and RCA stereo audio • 10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • USB 2.0 (for service and support) • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n) Apple TV (2nd generation) Year introduced: Late 2010 Color: Black Model number on bottom: A1378 Model Identifier: AppleTV2,1 Ports and interfaces: • HDMI (720P) • Optical audio • 10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • Micro-USB (for service and support) • Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) Apple TV (3rd generation) Year introduced: Early 2012 Color: Black Model number on bottom: A1427 Model Identifier: AppleTV3,1 Ports and interfaces: • HDMI (720P or 1080P) • Optical audio • 10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • Micro-USB (for service and support) • Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) Apple TV (3rd generation, Revision A) Year introduced: Early 2013 Model number on bottom: A1469 Model Identifier:AppleTV3,2 Ports and interfaces: • HDMI (720P or 1080P) • Optical audio • 10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • Micro-USB (for service and support) • Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n) Articles about Youtube going away on second generation Apple TV: http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/20/youtube-older-apple-tv-discontinued/ https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7029264 Best regards, Sieghard ---Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of chris Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store Actually Youtube is still available and working to my knowledge on the third generation, now entry level, model. On 26/10/2015 17:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: > Primarily it is the SIRI capable remote and the fact that the new Apple TV > has access to its own app store. > > I also would assume that eventually there will be new content which may not > be available on the third gen Apple TV. One example already is Youtube. As of > a few months ago the Youtube app is gone from the old Apple TV and while you > could still watch Youtube on your TV via the Apple TV by playing it on your > iOS device and sending it to the Apple TV using Airplay, it is nice to just > sit on the couch and check out Youtube content on the Apple TV. For me that > alone is almost worth it and combining it with having access to voice control > via SIRI and an app store which has huge potential means I just ordered my > new Apple TV from the Canadian online Apple Store using the Apple Store app. > > For once Apple is not price gouging like they are doing with the iPhone 6S > and 6S Plus on contract. The 64 Gb Apple TV which is $199 US is $269 canadian > and at 30% more that is right in line and actually maybe a few percent better > than the current exchange rate. > > If you go for the 32 Gb option for $149, it’s only an extra $80 more than the > third gen Apple TV and if you are a first time buyer I think it’s a > no-brainer. > > > > > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On > Behalf Of Marie > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:32 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > boy they need to add a lot for the difference in price. You can get an Apple > TV 3 for $69 and it offers lots of content. More than I have time to use > personally and I have no problem with the included remote or with the remote > app on the IPhone. It will be interesting to see what the added features are. > > Thanks for the info. > > Marie > > > > > > From: MamaPeach <mailto:mamapeac...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:58 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > When I get mine, I will let everyone know what it comes with. I don’t think > they are saying what you actually get on it right now. > > > > From: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA) > <mailto:laury-johns...@michigan.gov> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:47 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > Hello I too am interested in the apple tv and have been researching. I want > to get rid of my cable as well because the price is just too much for what it > offers. Where can I find out what is available on apple tv? Should I just > google it? > > Thanks > > > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MamaPeach > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:44 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > I would look up Apple TV on the internet and see what the advantages > of having one are. I cut cable a long time ago, because many of the > channels that cable offers are things I just don’t watch. With Apple > TV, I pay for a NetFlix subscription and a Hulu+ subscription and get > a lot of content just with those too. I enjoy other applications as > well, such as Lifetime, A&E, YouTube, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. There is so > much available, on the 2nd generation alone there are 71 apps, not > counting all the content you can access through the iTunes store, and > the new generation is supposed to have so much more. I am looking > forward to Voice Recognition and playing around with Siri. I would > rather have a Roku as Roku offers tons and tons and tons of channels, > but the Roku has no VoiceOver or any other speech which makes it > toally useless for a blind person. Apple TV, with VoiceOver enabled, > is a great set top box for a blind individual. I can’t wait to see > what all the new version does offer . > > > > From: Jeremy Gilley <mailto:j_gil...@att.net> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:45 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > Besides the easy way to look at the menus, can't one just get all those > channels through their normal television sets? > > I know this isn't in all states and countries, but some cable companies are > now having accessible ways to use menus through the television set itself. > > Got to see it in action when I went to visit family a few weeks ago. > > Just trying to see the difference. > > I mean also besides the menus, the person can listen to music and do > pictures, but well, streaming pictures through my television set won't work. > > Just some curious questions. > > Never seen an apple TV in action, and for me, it just seems like just one > more thing to hook up to your television. > > > > _____ > > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MamaPeach > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:04 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > It's an honest mistake. When people hear about Apple TV, Google TV, or > Android TV, they picture a big screen television with special features. > While a Google TV needs its own explanation, an Apple TV is a small network > media player that can stream both from your home computers and from online. > > Apple TV is a small device ( similar in size and appearance to the Roku Box > or Amazon FireTV) that uses an HDMI cable to connect to your television. > > It also uses Wifi (or Ethernet) to connect to your home network and the > internet. > > The purpose of Apple TV is to provide users with the ability to stream media, > such as photos, movies and music from iPhones, the iTunes store, or from > other partners like Netflix, HuluPlus, and more recently HBOGO or HBONow, to > enjoy on your TV and home theater audio system. > > The Apple TV has VoiceOver on it so blind people are able to navigate the > device and play all provided content. I have had an Apple TV for several > years now and I am able to use it without any sighted assistance with the use > of the VoiceOver feature. The new Apple TV is supposed to be so much better > than the one I have, which is the 2nd generation. > > From: Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 9:47 AM > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > Hello list > > Sorry for my ignorance but exactly what is an apple tv and what use and value > does it have for blind users? > > Regards > > Fanus > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: MamaPeach <mailto:mamapeac...@gmail.com> > > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > > Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:45 PM > > Subject: New Apple TV In The Apple Store > > > > Just to let everyone know, the new Apple TV 4th gen is now for sale in The > Apple Store. I just purchased the 64 gig model for $199.99. 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