I read November 4 according to Mac Daily News. But that's for Best Buy collection and delivery.

On 28/10/2015 12:58, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Yes, I somehow thought I had a third gen which is why I initially said it was 
no longer there, but my wife checked the model number nad it's definitely a 
second gen. I was planning all along to upgrade when the new Apple TV came out 
and I placed my order on Monday. Not sure when you guys get it in the States, 
here in Canada it said something about November 10.


-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Rick Alfaro
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2015 11:52 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Hi Sieghard, I have both a second and third gen of the Apple TV and can confirm 
that YouTube no longer is available on the second gen, only on the third gen. 
It was there at one time but as you said, Apple removed it with one of their 
updates.



Best regards,

Rick Alfaro

-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:23 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Hi,

OK, so I checked into this Youtube thing a bit more and on second generation 
Apple TV they are definitely gone, anybody who claims otherwise probably has a 
third generation Apple TV. I also found out that the third generation Apple TV 
which was originally released in March of 2012 had a small update (not sure 
what that was) and a Revision A was released in January of 2013. It appears 
that Youtube is still available on the third generation Apple TV and I thought 
that is what I had, but apparently I have only a second generation Apple TV. I 
sort of remembered this now because when the third generation Apple TV came out 
I was debating whether I should buy one, but I believe one of the few 
improvements was that it can stream in 1280P whereas the second gen can only do 
720P and to me that was not very important. Anybody who wants to check, here 
are the actual model numbers which would tell you exactly which one you have 
including the first generation Apple TV which came out in 2007 and
was available with a 40 Gb or 160 Gb hard drive and which probably not too many 
people have any more.
Below the model information I am pasting two links which talk about the Youtube 
thing:

Apple TV (1st generation)
Year introduced: Early 2007
Color: Silver
Capacity: 40 or 160 GB
Model number on bottom: A1218
Model Identifier: AppleTV1,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI and component video (480P or 720P) • Optical and RCA stereo audio • 
10/100BASE-T Ethernet • Built-in IR receiver • USB 2.0 (for service and 
support) • Wi-Fi (802.11b/g/n)

Apple TV (2nd generation)
Year introduced: Late 2010
Color: Black
  Model number on bottom: A1378
  Model Identifier: AppleTV2,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation)
Year introduced: Early 2012
Color: Black
  Model number on bottom: A1427
Model Identifier: AppleTV3,1
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Apple TV (3rd generation, Revision A)
Year introduced: Early 2013
  Model number on bottom: A1469
Model Identifier:AppleTV3,2
Ports and interfaces:
• HDMI (720P or 1080P)
• Optical audio
• 10/100BASE-T Ethernet
• Built-in IR receiver
• Micro-USB (for service and support)
• Wi-Fi (802.11a/b/g/n)

Articles about Youtube going away on second generation Apple TV:
http://www.macrumors.com/2015/04/20/youtube-older-apple-tv-discontinued/
https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7029264


Best regards,
Sieghard

---Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
chris
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 12:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store

Actually Youtube is still available and working to my knowledge on the third 
generation, now entry level, model.

On 26/10/2015 17:44, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Primarily it is the SIRI capable remote and the fact that the new Apple TV has 
access to its own app store.

I also would assume that eventually there will be new content which may not be 
available on the third gen Apple TV. One example already is Youtube. As of a 
few months ago the Youtube app is gone from the old Apple TV and while you 
could still watch Youtube on your TV via the Apple TV by playing it on your iOS 
device and sending it to the Apple TV using Airplay, it is nice to just sit on 
the couch and check out Youtube content on the Apple TV. For me that alone is 
almost worth it and combining it with having access to voice control via SIRI 
and an app store which has huge potential means I just ordered my new Apple TV 
from the Canadian online Apple Store using the Apple Store app.

For once Apple is not price gouging like they are doing with the iPhone 6S and 
6S Plus on contract. The 64 Gb Apple TV which is $199 US is $269 canadian and 
at 30% more that is right in line and actually maybe a few percent better than 
the current exchange rate.

If you go for the 32 Gb option for $149, it’s only an extra $80 more than the 
third gen Apple TV and if you are a first time buyer I think it’s a no-brainer.





Regards,

Sieghard



From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Marie
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:32 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



boy they need to add a lot for the difference in price. You can get an Apple TV 
3 for $69 and it offers lots of content. More than I have time to use 
personally and I have no problem with the included remote or with the remote 
app on the IPhone. It will be interesting to see what the added features are.

Thanks for the info.

Marie





From: MamaPeach <mailto:mamapeac...@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 8:58 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



When I get mine, I will let everyone know what it comes with. I don’t think 
they are saying what you actually get on it right now.



From: Laury-Johnson, Shawnese (LARA)
<mailto:laury-johns...@michigan.gov>

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:47 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



Hello I too am interested in the apple tv and have been researching. I want to 
get rid of my cable as well because the price is just too much for what it 
offers. Where can I find out what is available on apple tv? Should I just 
google it?

Thanks



From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MamaPeach
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 11:44 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



I would look up Apple TV on the internet and see what the advantages
of having one are. I cut cable a long time ago, because many of the
channels that cable offers are things I just don’t watch. With Apple
TV, I pay for a NetFlix subscription and a Hulu+ subscription and get
a lot of content just with those too. I enjoy other applications as
well, such as Lifetime, A&E, YouTube, ABC, NBC, CBS, etc. There is so
much available, on the 2nd generation alone there are 71 apps, not
counting all the content you can access through the iTunes store,  and
the new generation is supposed to have so much more. I am looking
forward to Voice Recognition and playing around with Siri. I would
rather have a Roku as Roku offers tons and tons and tons of channels,
but the Roku has no VoiceOver or any other speech which makes it
toally useless for a blind person. Apple TV, with VoiceOver enabled,
is a great set top box for a blind individual. I can’t wait to see
what all the new version does offer
.



From: Jeremy Gilley <mailto:j_gil...@att.net>

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:45 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: RE: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



Besides the easy way to look at the menus, can't one just get all those 
channels through their normal television sets?

I know this isn't in all states and countries, but some cable companies are now 
having accessible ways to use menus through the television set itself.

Got to see it in action when I went to visit family a few weeks ago.

Just trying to see the difference.

I mean also besides the menus, the person can listen to music and do pictures, 
but well, streaming pictures through my television set won't work.

Just some curious questions.

Never seen an apple TV in action, and for me, it just seems like just one more 
thing to hook up to your television.



    _____

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MamaPeach
Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 10:04 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



It's an honest mistake.  When people hear about Apple TV, Google TV, or Android 
TV, they picture a big screen television with special features.  While a Google 
TV needs its own explanation, an Apple TV is a small network media player that 
can stream both from your home computers and from online.

Apple TV is a small device ( similar in size and appearance to the Roku Box or 
Amazon FireTV) that uses an HDMI cable to connect to your television.

It also uses Wifi (or Ethernet) to connect to your home network and the 
internet.

The purpose of Apple TV is to provide users with the ability to stream media, 
such as photos, movies and music from iPhones, the iTunes store, or from other 
partners like Netflix, HuluPlus, and more recently HBOGO or HBONow, to enjoy on 
your TV and home theater audio system.

The Apple TV has VoiceOver on it so blind people are able to navigate the 
device and play all provided content. I have had an Apple TV for several years 
now and I am able to use it without any sighted assistance with the use of the 
VoiceOver feature. The new Apple TV is supposed to be so much better than the 
one I have, which is the 2nd generation.

From: Fanus <mailto:buys.fa...@gmail.com>

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 9:47 AM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



Hello list

Sorry for my ignorance but exactly what is an apple tv and what use and value 
does it have for blind users?

Regards

Fanus



----- Original Message -----

From: MamaPeach <mailto:mamapeac...@gmail.com>

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>

Sent: Monday, October 26, 2015 3:45 PM

Subject: New Apple TV In The Apple Store



Just to let everyone know, the new Apple TV 4th gen is now for sale in The 
Apple Store. I just purchased the 64 gig model for $199.99. Can't wait to get 
it!


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