Hello,
I take as they never have, and are not about to, care, either.


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> On 20 Feb 2016, at 8:12 pm, Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com> wrote:
> 
> I wouldn't exactly call their statement "honest". THe first part of their 
> statement is actually a bold faced lie. The tools are very available to make 
> their app accessible. the second half is more a statement of intent than 
> anything else. Its more likely that they never considered use by the blind 
> and are now being forced to admit to it (in a roundabout fashion). btw, I 
> haven't sent that letter yet. I was hoping to see more responses on this 
> before I did so.
> 
> -eric
> 
>> On Feb 20, 2016, at 6:40 AM, rajmund wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> LOL, least they were honest, and didn't just say, "Will do it in the next 
>> update."
>> 
>> Sent from a BrailleNote
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Eric Oyen <eric.o...@icloud.com
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Date sent: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:54:38 -0700
>> Subject: Re: Unacceptable Response from Issuu Support Team Regarding 
>> VoiceOverAccessibility
>> 
>> here is a copy of a letter that I propose sending to this company.  Might I 
>> also suggest hitting up their ratings area on the app store and posting a 0 
>> star rating with a list of complaints.  the more that show up there, the 
>> greater their incentive to change their attitude (and development cycle).  
>> Also, for anyone using the Android version of this app, doing the same on 
>> the android store should also have a similar impact.  SOmeone could also 
>> start a change.org petition.  The more attention that is brought to bear on 
>> this, the more likely it is that they will be forced to deal with this..
>> 
>> here is the letter:
>> 
>> ***
>> Gentlemen,
>> I recently read a response you sent another user about accessibility (or the 
>> lack of it) in your application platform.  I would also like to be able to 
>> use your platform, but find that none of the controls or options are 
>> accessible.  Considering that apple published (free of charge mind you) 
>> their API on how to interface with their screen reader, there is no excuse 
>> for your lack of accessibility.  In fact, your statement: "
>> 
>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments to use 
>> screen reading technology or have a way to make our site accessible at this 
>> time.  We also haven't been informed of any plans to add that functionality 
>> any time soon."
>> 
>> I must point out that your statement above is a slap in the face of any 
>> blind user who may have to depend on your application to read specific 
>> publications.  Also, as you do business in the US and contract with public 
>> institutions (schools, colleges, etc.), you are required to abide by the 
>> terms of the US AMericans with Disabilities act (as amended 1996).  I am 
>> only pointing this out to you to bring to your attention that someone else 
>> might decide your wallet would make a tempting target.  This is not a 
>> threat, this is advice you really should heed.  Now, the way I see it, you 
>> don't have any choice.  THere is already a push on to get other blind users 
>> to write in and hit you u up on this issue.  Considering the number of 
>> blindness related blogs, email lists and social pages (on Facebook and other 
>> social media), this means you might be forced to deal with this sooner 
>> (rather than later).
>> 
>> FYI, data regarding accessibility on iOS is available here: 
>> https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/documentation/UserExperie
>> nce/Conceptual/iPhoneAccessibility/Making_Application_Accessible/
>> Making_Application_Accessible.html
>> 
>> please do not do me the disservice of sending a response like the one quoted 
>> above.  Might I suggest that you change your plans now, while you still can. 
>>  Considering the number of blind iPhone users (at last count, somewhere 
>> north of 6 million or so), I would hate for you to have to drop everything 
>> to start dealing with 6 million angry blind people.  so, your  direction is 
>> now clear.  take the steps (now) to make your product accessible.
>> 
>> thank you,
>> 
>> Eric Oyen
>> ***
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Feb 19, 2016, at 8:31 AM, Christine Grassman wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear All:
>> 
>> Issuu is an app which provides access to millions of magazines, newsletters, 
>> etc., on virtually any topic you can think of.  My son, who is also a 
>> VoiceOver user, wanted to access his high school's newspaper which is on the 
>> platform.  However, it is in an image pdf.  Furthermore, trying to get 
>> around the app is nightmarish, and it does not appear that any of the 
>> available resources is accessible.
>> I wrote to their support center, and this is the response I received.  My 
>> response to that unhelpful response is first, with the response in the 
>> middle, with my original message at the bottom.  I think this is absolutely 
>> something which should be available to those who use screen readers.  If 
>> others agree, I think we should bombard them with requests to make their 
>> platform accessible.
>> Christine
>> 
>> 
>> Begin forwarded message:
>> 
>> From: "Christine Grassman (issuu Support Team)" <feedb...@issuu.com
>> Subject: Update from issuu Support Re: Poor VoiceOver accessibility
>> Date: February 19, 2016 at 10:16:27 AM EST
>> To: Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com
>> Reply-To: issuu Support Team <feedb...@issuu.com
>> 
>> ## Please do not write below this line ##
>> 
>> 
>> Christine Grassman
>> Feb 19, 16:16
>> 
>> With all due respect, there is no excuse for this.  Apple makes available to 
>> developers, free of charge, guidelines for making apps accessible.  There's 
>> absolutely no reason not to do this.
>> Christine
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Angel (Help Center)
>> Feb 19, 11:51
>> 
>> Hi Christine,
>> 
>> Unfortunately we don't have a way for those with visual impairments to use 
>> screen reading technology or have a way to make our site accessible at this 
>> time.  We also haven't been informed of any plans to add that functionality 
>> any time soon.  I'm so very sorry about that.
>> 
>> If we do introduce this functionality at any point, we will put up an 
>> announcement on our blog (blog.issuu.com) and on our help center 
>> (help.issuu.com), so please do keep checking these places for updates.
>> 
>> Please don't hesitate to write back if you have any other questions, and 
>> we'd be happy to assist you.
>> 
>> Best regards,
>> Angel
>> 
>> issuu is on iOS and Android.
>> 
>> To learn more about issuu, please visit our Help Center.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Christine Grassman
>> Feb 15, 22:42
>> 
>> I am blind, as are my children.  We use iPhones with VoiceOver accessibility 
>> to access text.  I am deeply disappointed that Issuu is not voiceover 
>> accessible.  Only some features are accessible, and one cannot find and read 
>> magazines.  In this day and age, this is unacceptable.  Information should 
>> be accessible to us just as to others.
>> There is no reason why the text of your millions of publications should not 
>> be accessible using a screen reader.  I hope that you will address this as 
>> quickly as possible.
>> Christine Grassman
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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