Hi Keith,
I shall respond off list, as we are speaking more of the attributes of the
Vac rather than the app.
However, while we are on list, I should like to say that extending the use
of the iPhone beyond its, originally, perceived potential, is still valid for
the list.
I see mention of blood pressure monitors, one pot cookers and fitbit
accessories, and all are valid for this list, in my opinion. But, I never
wanted to tire the list with too much enthusiasm on my part. The simple fact is
that this vac has reinvigorated my interest in my house and my environment,
generally. The Bot will work without the app, but in a most limited form, with
the app, it becomes something that one can contral just like anyone else.
See you off list,
Sandy.
sent from the dark side of the moon
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
> Sandy,
>
> Thanks very much for all the info and the demos.
>
> We have a mix of carpet and tile. Can one easily set up a carpet day and a
> tile day, giving time to switch out the brushes for the different floor
> surfaces??
>
> How much softer is the noise in Eco mode?
>
> Please keep me informed if you have to go off the viPhone list by adding me
> to your email list at the following: kramlinger.ke...@icloud.com .
>
> Best, Keith
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Ed,
>
> Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the
> robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which
> is the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of
> an upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another
> brush in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin
> is easy to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is
> more like a multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it
> is called the "spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since
> most of my floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I
> changed the power mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see
> that not only did it do just as well as the other brush at picking up
> dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and
> more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the past, used to do this, and I wondered if the
> Neato product could do the same and it can! I should say that whenever the
> floor is vacuumed with our very powerful suction vac (a conventional one that
> is) the floors always looked clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the
> feel, they never were quite nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the
> new brush, I keep bending down to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!!
>
> What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds
> sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best
> Buys (I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?)
>
> Hope this helps,
> Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors!
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
> Does this Bot Vac have suction or does it just use brushes to clean? Also
> about how much is this little unit?
> Ed
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Sieghard Weitzel
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You
> will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or
> maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling
> botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time
> you can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life.
>
> Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their
> union’s “sucks” *smile*
>
> Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Sieghard and Marie,
>
> Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model
> numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24
> hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable
> to say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example,
> accessibility, seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have
> only done the most basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its
> own thing, once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to
> look for, and I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of
> the price, but still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can
> send it back if you do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you
> are disappointed!!!!
>
> OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus
> fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several
> models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an
> app is the one which includes the word 'connected".
>
> As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4
> and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type,
> so, obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham
> Girls Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much
> less than 5 inches might be too tight.
>
> I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both
> for removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh
> was sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a
> powerful traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the
> dog is not meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice
> thing, but I haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets
> imagine you have spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and
> you know it is in a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the
> handle, put it just in front of where you think your spillage is and press
> the spot clean button, or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4
> ft (don't quote me on just how large the area is, can't remember just now)
> starting with the outer perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do
> the whole room if it doesn't suit.
>
> Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't
> bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for
> up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO.
>
> Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom.
>
> Sandy
>
> P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh
> says about 1000 square feet.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good
> mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about
> a foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the
> hose and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick
> and I can even get underneath our couch with it.
>
> I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I
> haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did
> you buy?
>
>
> Regards,
> Sieghard
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com>
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing
> measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be
> wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith
>
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of
> Jeremy Gilley
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol.
> My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was
> like ok, what ever.
> This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome
> cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off
> the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even
> zoomed in and cleaned.
> It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way
> to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back
> itself up to recharge.
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in
> the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square
> edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the
> dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the
> square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we
> will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I
> will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is
> tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner
> ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that
> it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The
> thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide.
> Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage
> it, however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs
> are no problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat
> skin rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any
> hoover.
>
> Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember,
> but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their
> usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things
> are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped
> for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the
> tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you
> get the impression I like this new toy?
>
> Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on
> the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just
> press the start button and off it goes!
>
> Sandy.
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D.
> <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> How does it do on edges and corners? And tile?
>
> If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get
> underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough
> cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs
> there, it should clean under the table, too?
>
> Thanks, Keith
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with
> you using Dropbox
>
> Sieghard,
>
> Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby,
> but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground
> floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it
> tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new
> household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had
> it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your
> floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery
> intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas,
> I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6
> by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re
> noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud,
> even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When
> it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started
> feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a
> really rather confined space.
>
> I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably
> impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The
> app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the
> owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but
> also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility!
>
> Sandy (Version 1)
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
>
> On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Sandy,
>
> Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and
> ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing
> you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave
> out whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might
> give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up
> furballs *smile*.
>
> Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and
> how long did it take for it to do the six rooms?
>
>
> Happy vacuuming,
> Sieghard
>
> From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you
> using Dropbox
>
> Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has
> arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half
> an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot.
>
> In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt
> with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms,
> all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some
> have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open,
> nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room
> until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed
> to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little
> utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back
> through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly,
> only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its
> direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song
> and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done!
>
> This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and
> has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!!
>
> Satisfied Sandy.
> Hi,
> Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox:
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0
>
>
>
> sent from the dark side of the moon
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