Could you write me with more details as I am interested in trying out one of these. Thank you
From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 4:49 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hi Keith, I shall respond off list, as we are speaking more of the attributes of the Vac rather than the app. However, while we are on list, I should like to say that extending the use of the iPhone beyond its, originally, perceived potential, is still valid for the list. I see mention of blood pressure monitors, one pot cookers and fitbit accessories, and all are valid for this list, in my opinion. But, I never wanted to tire the list with too much enthusiasm on my part. The simple fact is that this vac has reinvigorated my interest in my house and my environment, generally. The Bot will work without the app, but in a most limited form, with the app, it becomes something that one can contral just like anyone else. See you off list, Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon On 12 Jun 2016, at 22:26, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote: Sandy, Thanks very much for all the info and the demos. We have a mix of carpet and tile. Can one easily set up a carpet day and a tile day, giving time to switch out the brushes for the different floor surfaces?? How much softer is the noise in Eco mode? Please keep me informed if you have to go off the viPhone list by adding me to your email list at the following: kramlinger.ke...@icloud.com . Best, Keith From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 2:56 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hi Ed, Oh! It has suction alright! I think it might be the most powerful of the robot vacs. Yesterday, my first time using it, I used the Turbo mode, which is the most powerful, together with the rotating brush, rather like those of an upright vacuum. It did a splendid job, but today, after finding another brush in the box (by the way, the brushes are easy to swap and the dust bin is easy to empty) well, this second brush is also a rotating brush, but is more like a multiple squeegy! I looked it up on line and discovered that it is called the "spiral blade brush" and is recommended for hard floors. Since most of my floors are hard floors, tiles and wood, I gave it a go and I changed the power mode to "Eco", less powerful. Well, I was delighted to see that not only did it do just as well as the other brush at picking up dust/crumbs etc, it also buffs the tiles/wood, making them feel nicer and more shiny!!! My Roomba, in the past, used to do this, and I wondered if the Neato product could do the same and it can! I should say that whenever the floor is vacuumed with our very powerful suction vac (a conventional one that is) the floors always looked clean to the sighted, but to me, who goes by the feel, they never were quite nice to the touch. Now, with the BotVac and the new brush, I keep bending down to admire the lovely shiny clean tiles!!! What does it cost?From Amazon in the UK, I paid a wacking 530 pounds sterling! However, Jeremy seems to have found an excellent deal from Best Buys (I hope I have that right. Perhaps Jeremy could give some details again?) Hope this helps, Sandy of the scintillatingly, shiny, floors! sent from the dark side of the moon On 12 Jun 2016, at 18:03, Pinky <pink...@abe.midco.net> wrote: Hi Sandy, Does this Bot Vac have suction or does it just use brushes to clean? Also about how much is this little unit? Ed From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 7:08 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hi Sandy, If I do buy one and don’t like it I will hold you entirely responsible. You will have to buy it from me and then you can have a BotVac competition or maybe they can even fight together? You can start the WWBV (world wrestling botvac) organization and you’ll probably become a billionair at which time you can afford an entire human staff to cook, clean and organize your life. Have a good Sunday and don’t overwork your BotVac although I heard their union’s “sucks” *smile* Sieghard who will vacuum the good old fashion way tomorrow From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:06 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hi Sieghard and Marie, Now, now! Before you start getting serious and start looking at model numbers, please remember that I have had this particular toy for about 24 hours! I don't know how long Jeremy has had his, but, I think it reasonable to say that we are both still on a learning curve. For example, accessibility, seems very good, once you have set up the wifi, but I have only done the most basic commands thus far. I have only sent it off to do its own thing, once!!!True, I do have experience of Roombas, and do know what to look for, and I would say that this seems to be even better and costs 2/3 of the price, but still, it is early days. In other words, make sure you can send it back if you do go for it, and please don't hold me to blame if you are disappointed!!!! OK, caveat emptor and all that, plus a bit of cave canem and tempus fugit,my new toy is called the Neatorobot botvac connected. There are several models of the neato robot vacuum cleaners, the only one that works with an app is the one which includes the word 'connected". As for going under beds: it is 12 cm high, I think that might be about 4 and 3/4 inches high. My bed is about 2 ft 6 high, being an old brass type, so, obviously, no probs there, I could possibly fit the entire Dagganham Girls Brass Band under there! But if you have something more modern, much less than 5 inches might be too tight. I think that this Neato product has the best and easiest dust bin, both for removal and emptying. It was nearly full after today's effort, and Hugh was sure it wouldn't have much to get, seeing as he had hoovered, with a powerful traditional vac recently. I had a lot of dog hairs in it, though the dog is not meant to moult and Hugh was sure he had got them all! Another nice thing, but I haven't tried it yet with the app, you can spot clean. Lets imagine you have spilt something in the kitchen, sugar or flour, perhaps, and you know it is in a certain area, just go get your Bot, carried easily by the handle, put it just in front of where you think your spillage is and press the spot clean button, or use the app, and it will clean a square of about 4 ft (don't quote me on just how large the area is, can't remember just now) starting with the outer perimeter and working in. So, you don't have to do the whole room if it doesn't suit. Lastly, if anyone is serious about one of these, do look around. Amazon isn't bad, in fact, it might be the cheapest, but some have extended warrentees for up to 5 years, worth looking at IMHO. Wine time now, will clink a glass with my new pal Bottom. Sandy P.S. Sieghard, you asked how large the floor space of my ground floor, Hugh says about 1000 square feet. sent from the dark side of the moon On 11 Jun 2016, at 19:52, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: That’s where a traditional 4-poster with just a slatted base and a good mattress and a vacuum that is not an upright come in handy. Our bed has about a foot of space underneath and I have a built-in central vacuum so just the hose and the thing with the floor brush which is only about 2 inches thick and I can even get underneath our couch with it. I must admit that Sandy’s new toy sounds interesting and tempting. Sandy, I haven’t looked yet, but do they have different dmodels, if so, which one did you buy? Regards, Sieghard From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 10:48 AM To: 'viphone@googlegroups.com' <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Under the bed? Do you have an idea what the height off the floor the thing measures? This could convince my wife to allow a trial purchase. She would be wild about something that would get under the bed. Keith From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Gilley Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 12:24 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox That is what I did sandy. accidently pressed the button and off it went lol. My dog too has no problems with it. she sniffed it a couple times and was like ok, what ever. This thing even zoomed under my bed everything. It was really awesome cleaning my apt. I have a 1,300 SQFT apt. Your right, it finds the rooms off the living room and if you leave closets opened as I accidently did, it even zoomed in and cleaned. It is remarkable how it can be at the back end of the APT and it finds it way to the front of the apt where the charger is, turn itself around and back itself up to recharge. _____ From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 1:16 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hi Keith, Because the house was vacuumed 2 days ago, there wasn't any build-up in the corners etc. But, because of the shape of this Neato, which has a square edge, it does go along the wall edges, using its side brushes, these push the dust/hair under the rotating brushes and are sucked up. Also, because of the square corners, it should do a better job in corners. I can only say that we will be monitoring it over the next month, not using any other vacuum, and I will report back to you. As for tiles: approx half of our floor space is tiled and it works well with them. I was a little concerned when my partner ordered the Bot before I had finished researching it because I had heard that it had problems with dark/black floors, interpreting them as "drop-off". The thing is not meant to fall off steps and uses brightness/darkness as a guide. Well, we have a chess-board tiled floor and I was worried it might not manage it, however, no probs. perhaps the problems were with earlier models. Rugs are no problem either. However, if you have something long haired like a goat skin rug, well, you will have the same problems that you would have with any hoover. Lastly, re the chairs and table scenario: the Bot does map and remember, but it also sees, in a way, it uses laser. If things are exactly in their usual place, I imagine, it will be most quick to do its work, but if things are moved, it will work, just as it did for me this morning, when it mapped for the first time. By the way, we did leave the chairs down, round the tables, it was fine! it went in between the legs and did a fine job! Do you get the impression I like this new toy? Lastly, as I told Jeramy, we do still need help with turning on the wifi on the BotVac itself before we can use it with the app. But one can always just press the start button and off it goes! Sandy. sent from the dark side of the moon On 11 Jun 2016, at 17:25, Kramlinger, Keith G., M.D. <kramlinger.ke...@mayo.edu> wrote: Hi, How does it do on edges and corners? And tile? If a dining room table has chairs positioned at the table, it can’t get underneath. So, if one removes the chairs on occasion to do a more thorough cleaning, is it smart enough to know at those times, without the chairs there, it should clean under the table, too? Thanks, Keith From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:10 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Sieghard, Hugh has taken the 'orrible pooch out for a run in the local ruined abby, but when he gets back, I will ask him for the square footage of the ground floor. As for timing, I can only guess, roughly an hour, but will time it tomorrow, always assuming no industrial relations problems with my new household slave (I speak of the robot, of course!). I should say that I had it set to "Turbo", which is the more intensive mode. Once you have your floors to your liking, I imagine, you could use the quicker and less battery intensive mode "eco". I know that you have no carpets in your house, whereas, I do have some rugs, little ones in doorways and a couple of larger, say, 6 by 8, or therabouts, and, I must say, it did a good job on them. Also, re noise, on Turbo,it is louder than on Eco, but I didn't find it at all loud, even when Hugh and I and dog were in the kitchen while it was working. When it did the utility room, I had thought it had forgotten it and so had started feeding the cat and the dog, it carried on working around them and me, in a really rather confined space. I am sure I will come across some glitches, but, so far, I am suitably impressed and I have had these things, in one form or another, for years! The app is very nice and seems totally accessible, think I will write to the owners, not only to request the implant which you so kindly suggested, but also to congratulate them on a job well done re accessibility! Sandy (Version 1) sent from the dark side of the moon On 11 Jun 2016, at 16:34, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote: Hi Sandy, Sounds great, I suggest you contact the company that makes your botvac and ask if they could hook up some of that technology to your brain, next thing you’ll be running around without a cane or a dog, just make sure they leave out whatever makes the botvac suck up all the dirt it comes across, it might give you indigestion and I don’t think our anatomy is designed to cough up furballs *smile*. Just out of curiocity, do you know how many square metres your floor is and how long did it take for it to do the six rooms? Happy vacuuming, Sieghard From: 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 6:19 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Unboxing my Neato BotVac! Sand Tomkins has shared a file with you using Dropbox Hallo to any who were interested in the Robot Vacuum cleaners. Mine has arrived and I have made a couple of recordings: the first, lasting about half an hour, is just unboxing it. The second is my first experience using the Bot. In passing, I should say that I was very impressed with the way it dealt with my, somewhat, complex floor-plan. On our ground floor, we have 6 rooms, all interlinking. Apart from the kitchen, all have at least 2 doors, some have 3, not counting external doors. I left all the internal doors open, nevertheless, the BotVac did each room, not being tempted out of the room until it was finished. Ithought, when it had done 5 of the rooms and seemed to be heading home to the docking station, that it had missed the little utility room, Near to the back door, but, NO! it made its way there, back through 3 rooms, and did the last one. Once finished, it headed, unerringly, only banging its head a little on a treadmill, but not put off from its direct line to the docking station, where it backed into place, sang a song and sent me a message to my iPhone saying it was done! This hoover has better mobility than me! It walks into fewer things and has a great sense of which room it is in. I want a botVac hat!! Satisfied Sandy. Hi, Here’s a link to “2016-06-10 02_59.wav” in my Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/m0jxpureed3fc6b/2016-06-10%2002_59.wav?dl=0 sent from the dark side of the moon -- The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. 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