That's a bit like saying Toyota has much more market share than Mercedes. Android may have more market share world wide because there are a lot of low-end Android phones especially in countries like China, India, Indonesia and other Asian, south American and African countries where most people can't afford an iPhone or one of the high-end Android phones like a Samsung Galaxy. The fact is that three quarters of the world's population is in these countries and part of a socio-economic group which could never afford a phone which costs more than $50 or $100 at the most. However, if you look at how much money Apple makes from iPhones/iOS compared to how much money Google makes from Android it's a very different story. Google makes its money from advertising and Apple makes it from their hardware and services like Apple Music and the iTunes Store. Apple is a single manufacturer and they have a handful of phone models, Google licenses Android to dozens of manufacturers and there are hundreds of models of Android phones. Compare Apple with Samsung and their high-end phones which are really the competition for the iPhone and Apple wins hands down.
Regards, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Evan Reese Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:58 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? Last I heard, which was not very long ago, according to a recent issue of the Economist, Android has over 80 percent of the smart phone market. So I would say that Apple is getting serious competition already. Evan -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:07 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? I would claim that Apple is getting real competition from other smart phone makers. I haven't checked the numbers lately, but Android in general and Samsung in particular outsell IOS and i Phones. Even if Apple has let over Samsung or is doing better in particular markets, I think Apple would be crazy not to consider this serious competition. Note, I'm not saying Android or Samsung is better than IOS or Apple, but I just don't think it's true that they aren't real competition for the iPhone. On 16/06/16 01:42, Gary Petraccaro wrote: > That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other > smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access > people and requesting features such as what you want. If that doesn't > do it, then Apple just has certain established attitudes toward their > product and feels no reason to change them. One of those, the failure > of Siri to open shazam or Google seems to me to be based on Apple's > making a competitive product and not wanting it's operating system to > give a leg up to a product not Apple's own. > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM > *Subject:* RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > Hi Jonathan, > > Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how > they are opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to > developers but they conveniently forget to mention that really they > don’t. As much as I like my iphone and what Apple is doing in many > areas, it is very annoying that they are so backwards in other ways. > > Regards, > > Sieghard > > *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] > *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Mosen > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM > *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any > time soon. For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds > of application: ride booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments, > Calling, and Workouts. > > So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any > other third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you > on Spotify or Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent > episode of a podcast using third-party podcast apps. I have no idea > why Apple is so tone deaf to how far it is lagging behind in this > space, but what they're coming out with is only going to improve the > situation slightly. > > Jonathan Mosen > > Mosen Consulting > > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org> > > On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca > <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: > > Hi Devin, > > Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed > out, there isn't much that is really groundbreaking. > Collaboration in documents is something Microsoft has been > offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their > API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed > out that SIRI has been around for 5 years now and if you really > think about it SIRI now is not a lot better than it was 5 years > ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and can pull > information from a few more sources, but why is it still not > possible to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an > example of one of my contacts where I have at least 3 or 4 > Kevins in my contacts who all work for different companies. I > can't even create a contact where I just enter a company name in > the company name field and a single phone number and say, for > example, "Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company > name in the last name field to do this. I should be able to say > "Show me all my contacts who work at Bigrock Sports" or I should > be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or Off", but > all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell > SIRI to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3 > PM", but if I say "Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment > on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it will remind me and when I > check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder for 3 PM > whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at > 3 PM. There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I > want, but I should be able to say it anyway I like or even in > two parts like "Remind me about my dentist appointment at 3 PM > on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be able to bring > it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at > 11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM, > Noon, 1 PM and 2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI > should remind me again 15 minutes before if it detects my iPhone > is not moving. This is true artificial intelligence, it already > exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it and so do > Apple's servers. > I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say > "Play the Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I > have not started one but have a bunch downloaded I hope I can > say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just one example of a book > by Alex Berentson I just finished). > Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do. > Try and ask SIRI to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you > "Sorry, I can't help you with the stop watch". Huh, really, it > can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar events and > reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why? > > > Best regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater > Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? > > Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets > integrated into predictive text, so she can suggest better > options there, like I'm at (suggests input of location into the > text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to developers, so apps > can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. Apps > can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money > right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window > app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple > watch. Just amazing stuff! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce > <kellyt...@gmail.com <mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and > play it on a > stand alone device. Apple announced incremental > improvements, not > breakthrough technology. Even Facebook with its calling > feature in > the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new. > Some of > Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be > believed. The > photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places. > > Kelly > > > On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone > <viphone@googlegroups.com > <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: > Hi, > > I was under the impression that the Apple event was > yesterday. I > cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was > yesterday, how come > the silence? Was it so unremarkable? 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