Ok, this is vering off topic, so i’ll ask this question i have then i’ll shut up: Ar all languages for Talkback downloaded or just English? I mean i’m in Sweden and at least before, talkback only came in english and it was somewhat of a job to download the swedish language. /Krister
> 17 juni 2016 kl. 02:32 skrev Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>: > > You don't need to be a geek to get started with and use an Android phone. > Talk Back comes installed on an Android phone and you don't need sighted > assistance to get it started and set up your phone. The stock apps are > accessible. Jonathan Mozen recently published a blog article, which I think > he mentioned on this list, on how Android is a viable option for many smart > phone users. I'd suggest anyone interested in where Android accessibility is > give Jonathan's article a read. > > Note, I'm not saying Android is better than IOS or more accessible, I'm just > pointing out that some of the myths that you need to be a geek to use or > appreciate Android just aren't true. > > On 16/06/16 12:04, Krister Ekstrom wrote: >> The question however is how much competition is there accessibility wise? >> Yeah, the geeks could probably get an Android phone started and even to >> work, but what about ordinary not overly bright consumers like me? >> /Krister >> >>> 16 juni 2016 kl. 17:58 skrev Evan Reese <ment...@dslextreme.com>: >>> >>> Last I heard, which was not very long ago, according to a recent issue of >>> the Economist, Android has over 80 percent of the smart phone market. So I >>> would say that Apple is getting serious competition already. >>> Evan >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: Christopher Chaltain >>> Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 8:07 AM >>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>> Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? >>> >>> I would claim that Apple is getting real competition from other smart >>> phone makers. I haven't checked the numbers lately, but Android in >>> general and Samsung in particular outsell IOS and i Phones. Even if >>> Apple has let over Samsung or is doing better in particular markets, I >>> think Apple would be crazy not to consider this serious competition. >>> >>> Note, I'm not saying Android or Samsung is better than IOS or Apple, but >>> I just don't think it's true that they aren't real competition for the >>> iPhone. >>> >>> On 16/06/16 01:42, Gary Petraccaro wrote: >>>> That will change when Apple starts getting real competition from other >>>> smartphone makers, or the blind start calling/writing the access people >>>> and requesting features such as what you want. If that doesn't do it, >>>> then Apple just has certain established attitudes toward their product >>>> and feels no reason to change them. One of those, the failure of Siri >>>> to open shazam or Google seems to me to be based on Apple's making a >>>> competitive product and not wanting it's operating system to give a leg >>>> up to a product not Apple's own. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> *From:* Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca> >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 15, 2016 1:19 PM >>>> *Subject:* RE: WWDC event, was it yesterday? >>>> >>>> Hi Jonathan, >>>> >>>> Well, isn’t that nice of Apple. They make such a big deal of how >>>> they are opening up the API’s for all of these iOS features to >>>> developers but they conveniently forget to mention that really they >>>> don’t. As much as I like my iphone and what Apple is doing in many >>>> areas, it is very annoying that they are so backwards in other ways. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> *From:*viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>> *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Mosen >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 14, 2016 11:34 PM >>>> *To:* viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? >>>> >>>> Hi Sieghard, sad to say, Siri won't be opening your Audible book any >>>> time soon. For iOS 10.0, the Siri API will only work with six kinds >>>> of application: ride booking, messaging , Photo Search, payments, >>>> Calling, and Workouts. >>>> >>>> So, Siri won't be able to open a book in Voice Dream, Bard, or any >>>> other third-party book app. It won't be able to play music for you >>>> on Spotify or Pandora. It won't be able to play the most recent >>>> episode of a podcast using third-party podcast apps. I have no idea >>>> why Apple is so tone deaf to how far it is lagging behind in this >>>> space, but what they're coming out with is only going to improve the >>>> situation slightly. >>>> >>>> Jonathan Mosen >>>> >>>> Mosen Consulting >>>> >>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >>>> >>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org> >>>> >>>> On 15/06/2016, at 6:59 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca >>>> <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Devin, >>>> >>>> Yes, some of it sounds very nice, but as others have pointed >>>> out, there isn't much that is really groundbreaking. >>>> Collaboration in documents is something Microsoft has been >>>> offering for years and it is high time Apple opened up their >>>> API's to developers especially the one for SIRI. They pointed >>>> out that SIRI has been around for 5 years now and if you really >>>> think about it SIRI now is not a lot better than it was 5 years >>>> ago. Yes, it's a bit faster with dictation and can pull >>>> information from a few more sources, but why is it still not >>>> possible to say "Call Kevin from Bigrock Sports" just to give an >>>> example of one of my contacts where I have at least 3 or 4 >>>> Kevins in my contacts who all work for different companies. I >>>> can't even create a contact where I just enter a company name in >>>> the company name field and a single phone number and say, for >>>> example, "Call Bigrock Sports". I have to also put the company >>>> name in the last name field to do this. I should be able to say >>>> "Show me all my contacts who work at Bigrock Sports" or I should >>>> be able to tell SIRI to "Turn Voiceover Hints On or Off", but >>>> all of these things SIRI can't do. Another example: I can tell >>>> SIRI to "Remind me about my dentist appointment on Friday at 3 >>>> PM", but if I say "Remind me about my 3 PM dentist appointment >>>> on Friday at 2 PM" it will say it will remind me and when I >>>> check what SIRI created I see it created the reminder for 3 PM >>>> whereas I want to be reminded at 2 PM that my appointment is at >>>> 3 PM. There is a complicated way to say it so it does what I >>>> want, but I should be able to say it anyway I like or even in >>>> two parts like "Remind me about my dentist appointment at 3 PM >>>> on Friday" and when SIRI says it will I should be able to bring >>>> it up again and say "Start reminding me once an hour starting at >>>> 11 AM and it should understand that I want a reminder at 11 AM, >>>> Noon, 1 PM and 2 PM and maybe by its own intelligence SIRI >>>> should remind me again 15 minutes before if it detects my iPhone >>>> is not moving. This is true artificial intelligence, it already >>>> exists, the iPhone has the processing power to do it and so do >>>> Apple's servers. >>>> I can't say how much I look forward to being finally able to say >>>> "Play the Audible book I am currently listening to" or, if I >>>> have not started one but have a bunch downloaded I hope I can >>>> say "Play Night Ranger in audible" (just one example of a book >>>> by Alex Berentson I just finished). >>>> Another basic example of something super simple SIRI can't do. >>>> Try and ask SIRI to "Start the Stop Watch". SIRI will tell you >>>> "Sorry, I can't help you with the stop watch". Huh, really, it >>>> can set a timer, an alarm, it can create calendar events and >>>> reminders but it can't start the stop watch? Why? >>>> >>>> >>>> Best regards, >>>> Sieghard >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Devin Prater >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2016 8:50 AM >>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> >>>> Subject: Re: WWDC event, was it yesterday? >>>> >>>> Sure, but little things add up to big changes. Siri gets >>>> integrated into predictive text, so she can suggest better >>>> options there, like I'm at (suggests input of location into the >>>> text)" and stuff like that. Siri is open to developers, so apps >>>> can allow Siri to use their functionality from anywhere. Apps >>>> can do things within iMessage, like allowing sending of money >>>> right from messages. Mac gets Siri, tabs in every multi-window >>>> app. People can collaborate with notes. Unlock Mac with Apple >>>> watch. Just amazing stuff! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 14, 2016, at 10:43 AM, Kelly Pierce >>>> <kellyt...@gmail.com <mailto:kellyt...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> If you can't stream it, download my MP3 of the event and >>>> play it on a >>>> stand alone device. Apple announced incremental >>>> improvements, not >>>> breakthrough technology. Even Facebook with its calling >>>> feature in >>>> the messages app, a Facetime mimmick, offered something new. >>>> Some of >>>> Apple's innovations will need to be experieinced to be >>>> believed. The >>>> photos app will now be able to recognize peple and places. >>>> >>>> Kelly >>>> >>>> >>>> On 6/14/16, 'Sandratomkins' via VIPhone >>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com >>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I was under the impression that the Apple event was >>>> yesterday. I >>>> cannot stream it, no bandwidth! But, if it was >>>> yesterday, how come >>>> the silence? Was it so unremarkable? 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