Just about how long people are sticking to old devices. I got the
feeling you're saying people should ditch their devices every year
or two. I must have gett it all wrong, I didn't finish my morning
cup of coffee while reading your post, sorry.
28.8.2016. u 21:56, Christopher
Chaltain je napisao/la:
I'm not sure what you're objecting to exactly.
I agree with you though. I'm still getting through a whole day on
my iPhone 4S. It isn't going to compete with an iPhone 6, but
depending on how you use it, I think it's still usable.
On 28/08/16 04:11, Gordan Radić wrote:
Hi!
I have to object on this one.
I bought my old 4S back in 2012. when it was last years model.
I used it untill october 2015. with no problems at all. When I
got my
new device I did some tests with old 4S and along others, I
fully
charged it, disabled WiFi and Bluetooth and removed the SIM card
from
it. I just locked the phone and it was on stand by for the next
8 days
meaning the battery in it was significantly strong at the time
beeing.
Today my old 4S is borrowed to one of my friends and he is using
it on a
daily basis, talking, texting, hanging on Facebook and following
some
sites rather more than I did and the battery is holding about
day and a
half.
If this continues in this mannor I asume this phone will last
atleast
next two years with iOS 9.3.5 or some possible update in 9.x.
Of course, working with it is not as nice and ellegant as
working with
6S but for someone who just needs calling, texting and alarm
clock is
far better solution than some cheap Android POC or spending
significant
ammount of money for some new iOS device. I have to remind you
not all
countries have free iPhones on operators contract and here in EU
we're
paying about $100 more for the same models because of EU WWATT
and
shipping or whatever.
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27.8.2016. u 20:00, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la:
Is this really Apple's rule? I couldn't
find anything on line with a
quick web search. I remember everyone was surprised when Apple
continued to support the 4S with IOS 9, which would have been
four
years and not five, if the 4S would have stopped at IOS 8.
Whether it's a rule or not, and whether it's four or five
years,
Apple's support for older hardware is truly outstanding in the
mobile
space.
I would agree that if you're worried about whether you get an
IOS
upgrade or the SE in 2020 then you should wait to see what the
fall
brings. As Sieghard says though, the SE will still work on the
last
version of IOS it supports even if you can't move up to the
next
version. Also, how many people hold on to their smart phones
that long
in the first place? I've seen us 4S users on this list get
responses
that we should just upgrade, even when asking questions that
have
nothing to do with the 4S and it's hardware.
On 27/08/16 08:37, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Knowing that this is Apple's rule at
this point it doesn't mean this
will change. Also, if somebody who couldn't care less about
the
latest features had an iPhone 4S which still worked well for
what
they are doing they can still use it for years to come with
iOS
9.3.5. Of course the reality is that a device that is 5 or 6
or even
7 years old will most likely need a new battery and why pay
for that
if you could get whatever iPhone is free on contract. The
exception
here would be somebody who maybe is happy to use the iPhone
4S with a
prepaid service or with a low-cost MVNO. My Mom has an iPad
2 from
2011 which also will not get iOS 10 this year. She already
asked me
if she could still use it and I said that of course she can
since
while it is a bit slow compared to new devices, it is still
going
strong.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:51 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or
getting SE
Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing
upgrade
ability to iPhones after five years. The SE is based on
2015
technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020.
The iPhone
7 will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021,
based on past
Apple practice. For example, the 4s will not be able to
accept iOS
10 that will be out later this year.
Kelly
On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
I just wonder what Apple's long term
plans are. Are they going to
eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS
products or are
they going to continue to have multiple hardware releases
in the year?
I can see where a spring release might take some of the
thunder away
from the other smart phone manufacturers who line their
product
releases up with the show in Barcelona, but I also know
that operating
system development is more complicated when you have to
support
different hardware schedules.
On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote:
Some people may be mad, but as
Christopher said, it's up to everybody
to do their research. There will also be a lot of users
who are not
super technical users who couldn't care less if a new
smaller form
factor phone were released. They may hear about it in a
news article
from a major news outlet, but the fact is that a large
majority of
people are users who do not necessarily follow each
Apple Event.
Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care
less if they
made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did
this with the
iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I
don't think
they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in
September, at this
point there would be many more rumours and some of which
from sources
who in the past have been very credible and there are no
such rumours.
Regards,
Sieghard
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On
Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or
getting SE
Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it
released its other
phones last fall. It waited several months before doing
so. And, when
the phone was released, there was a major back up, so
people waited
weeks before getting their phones. That is fairly
typical for Apple
phone releases, and they admitted that they
underestimated the demand
for this particular phone. So, you have a case where
people just
purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here we are
in September
almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple
releases a new SE
now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I
think the folks
who purchased their phones recently are going to be
upset. You know,
Apple, why didn't you release this phone last fall with
all of the
others? Why did you wait over half a year, then release
the phone,
and right on top of it, release another one?
That's why I figure people would not be happy.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM,
Christopher Chaltain
<chalt...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if
Apple came out
with an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six
months after
the SE came out?
Are you talking about the same people who get mad when
something
goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I
never got this
reasoning since this would mean the only way to make
everyone happy
is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone
who knows Apple
knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd
think anyone who
bought an SE would know that there would be a chance
Apple might
include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's
line up. I don't
think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone
model any more
frequently than once a year. I also don't see what
anyone who has an
SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs
of the SE
this fall.
On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten
wrote:
Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the
smaller screen.
I can't imagine Apple introducing a new small
screen model. a lot
of people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to
be hopping mad
if they do. Not that making people mad has stopped
Apple from doing
things in the past. Smile.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM,
Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote:
This may also depend on whether you want the
larger screen, more
than likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger
screen as the 6 and 6
plus do, not sure if Apple will have a newer SE
version with the
iphone 7 specs, so if you want the smaller screen,
the iphone SE
might be a good choice, should be interesting to
see what Apple
introduces though.
Original message:
Hello Christine,
Were I you, given the
situation as you have described it, this is
to say, you have access to an interim phone to
use until the
release of iPhone 7, I would recommend that you
wait until iPhone
7 is released before using your upgrade
privileges.
Mark
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From: viphone@googlegroups.com
[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of Christine Grassman
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone
7 or getting SE
Is there any reason
to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade
toward an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My
iPHone 6 was
brutally victimized by a car backing up today,
and I am now faced
with using my upgrade for an SE, or using my
daughter’s old 5C
until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the
hassle of syncing
two new phones in rather quick succession, so I
am trying to
figure out whether to just get the SE (I like
the smaller
screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7.
From what I’m able to gather, the main features
of interest
involve improved camera, which I do not care
about, and unless
there are any amazing features or improvements,
I figure I may as
well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple
to wow me.
In short: 1. Take my
daughter’s old 5C for a few weeks; or 2. Use
my upgrade, get the SE, and wait for next year
because the 7
isn’t worth wasting my upgrade or extra money.
TIA.
Christine
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