I also think it's good that Apple supports their devices as long as they do, at least most of them. As the owner of a first generation iPad, I can say that this isn't always true, sigh. Anyway, given the cost of iPhones, it is good that they are generally supported for several years. Mary
Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 28, 2016, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Sorry, I never meant to say or imply that. As I said, I kept my iPhone 4S for > over four years. I said that I've seen messages from others on this list, > when question from 4S users come up, that they need to upgrade their phone > and what do they expect with such an old device, but this isn't my opinion > though. I also said that anyone who is worried about that IOS upgrade four or > five years after they purchase their phone should probably wait another month > to see what the fall offerings will bring. > > All that being said, I do think that most people don't hold on to their smart > phones for five years. I suspect most iPhone users tend to upgrade their > phones a bit more often than that. That doesn't mean everyone does or > everyone should. I also think it's great of Apple to support their older > phones as long as they do. > >> On 28/08/16 16:48, Gordan Radić wrote: >> Just about how long people are sticking to old devices. I got the >> feeling you're saying people should ditch their devices every year or >> two. I must have gett it all wrong, I didn't finish my morning cup of >> coffee while reading your post, sorry. >> >> >> >> S poštovanjem >> *Gordan Radić* <mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> >> >> Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org> >> >> Pišite nam <mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> Posjetitenas na Facebooku >> <http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> Pratite nas na Twitteru >> <http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> >> >> 28.8.2016. u 21:56, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la: >>> I'm not sure what you're objecting to exactly. >>> >>> I agree with you though. I'm still getting through a whole day on my >>> iPhone 4S. It isn't going to compete with an iPhone 6, but depending >>> on how you use it, I think it's still usable. >>> >>> On 28/08/16 04:11, Gordan Radić wrote: >>>> Hi! >>>> >>>> I have to object on this one. >>>> >>>> I bought my old 4S back in 2012. when it was last years model. >>>> >>>> I used it untill october 2015. with no problems at all. When I got my >>>> new device I did some tests with old 4S and along others, I fully >>>> charged it, disabled WiFi and Bluetooth and removed the SIM card from >>>> it. I just locked the phone and it was on stand by for the next 8 days >>>> meaning the battery in it was significantly strong at the time beeing. >>>> >>>> Today my old 4S is borrowed to one of my friends and he is using it on a >>>> daily basis, talking, texting, hanging on Facebook and following some >>>> sites rather more than I did and the battery is holding about day and a >>>> half. >>>> >>>> If this continues in this mannor I asume this phone will last atleast >>>> next two years with iOS 9.3.5 or some possible update in 9.x. >>>> >>>> Of course, working with it is not as nice and ellegant as working with >>>> 6S but for someone who just needs calling, texting and alarm clock is >>>> far better solution than some cheap Android POC or spending significant >>>> ammount of money for some new iOS device. I have to remind you not all >>>> countries have free iPhones on operators contract and here in EU we're >>>> paying about $100 more for the same models because of EU WWATT and >>>> shipping or whatever. >>>> >>>> >>>> S poštovanjem >>>> *Gordan Radić* <mailto://gordan.ra...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Posjetite-portal-Nemoguća-vizija <http://www.nemoviz.org> >>>> >>>> Pišite nam <mailto://i...@nemoviz.org> Posjetitenas na Facebooku >>>> <http://www.facebook.com/nemoviz> Pratite nas na Twitteru >>>> <http://www.twitter.com/nemoviz2014> >>>> >>>> 27.8.2016. u 20:00, Christopher Chaltain je napisao/la: >>>>> Is this really Apple's rule? I couldn't find anything on line with a >>>>> quick web search. I remember everyone was surprised when Apple >>>>> continued to support the 4S with IOS 9, which would have been four >>>>> years and not five, if the 4S would have stopped at IOS 8. >>>>> >>>>> Whether it's a rule or not, and whether it's four or five years, >>>>> Apple's support for older hardware is truly outstanding in the mobile >>>>> space. >>>>> >>>>> I would agree that if you're worried about whether you get an IOS >>>>> upgrade or the SE in 2020 then you should wait to see what the fall >>>>> brings. As Sieghard says though, the SE will still work on the last >>>>> version of IOS it supports even if you can't move up to the next >>>>> version. Also, how many people hold on to their smart phones that long >>>>> in the first place? I've seen us 4S users on this list get responses >>>>> that we should just upgrade, even when asking questions that have >>>>> nothing to do with the 4S and it's hardware. >>>>> >>>>>> On 27/08/16 08:37, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>>> Knowing that this is Apple's rule at this point it doesn't mean this >>>>>> will change. Also, if somebody who couldn't care less about the >>>>>> latest features had an iPhone 4S which still worked well for what >>>>>> they are doing they can still use it for years to come with iOS >>>>>> 9.3.5. Of course the reality is that a device that is 5 or 6 or even >>>>>> 7 years old will most likely need a new battery and why pay for that >>>>>> if you could get whatever iPhone is free on contract. The exception >>>>>> here would be somebody who maybe is happy to use the iPhone 4S with a >>>>>> prepaid service or with a low-cost MVNO. My Mom has an iPad 2 from >>>>>> 2011 which also will not get iOS 10 this year. She already asked me >>>>>> if she could still use it and I said that of course she can since >>>>>> while it is a bit slow compared to new devices, it is still going >>>>>> strong. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>> Behalf Of Kelly Pierce >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2016 2:51 AM >>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE >>>>>> >>>>>> Missing from this discussion is that Apple stops providing upgrade >>>>>> ability to iPhones after five years. The SE is based on 2015 >>>>>> technology and likely cannot accept the new iOS in 2020. The iPhone >>>>>> 7 will likely not be able to receive a new iOS in 2021, based on past >>>>>> Apple practice. For example, the 4s will not be able to accept iOS >>>>>> 10 that will be out later this year. >>>>>> >>>>>> Kelly >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8/26/16, Christopher Chaltain <chalt...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> I just wonder what Apple's long term plans are. Are they going to >>>>>>> eventually sync the SE up with the rest of the IOS products or are >>>>>>> they going to continue to have multiple hardware releases in the >>>>>>> year? >>>>>>> I can see where a spring release might take some of the thunder away >>>>>>> from the other smart phone manufacturers who line their product >>>>>>> releases up with the show in Barcelona, but I also know that >>>>>>> operating >>>>>>> system development is more complicated when you have to support >>>>>>> different hardware schedules. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 26/08/16 22:12, Sieghard Weitzel wrote: >>>>>>>> Some people may be mad, but as Christopher said, it's up to >>>>>>>> everybody >>>>>>>> to do their research. There will also be a lot of users who are not >>>>>>>> super technical users who couldn't care less if a new smaller form >>>>>>>> factor phone were released. They may hear about it in a news article >>>>>>>> from a major news outlet, but the fact is that a large majority of >>>>>>>> people are users who do not necessarily follow each Apple Event. >>>>>>>> Anyhow, when it comes down to it Apple couldn't care less if they >>>>>>>> made 10% of their user base mad, after all, they did this with the >>>>>>>> iPad a few years ago. Also, for whatever it's worth, I don't think >>>>>>>> they are going to release a new 4 inch phone in September, at this >>>>>>>> point there would be many more rumours and some of which from >>>>>>>> sources >>>>>>>> who in the past have been very credible and there are no such >>>>>>>> rumours. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Sieghard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On >>>>>>>> Behalf Of Mary Otten >>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 8:04 PM >>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Well, Apple did not release the iPhone SE when it released its other >>>>>>>> phones last fall. It waited several months before doing so. And, >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> the phone was released, there was a major back up, so people waited >>>>>>>> weeks before getting their phones. That is fairly typical for Apple >>>>>>>> phone releases, and they admitted that they underestimated the >>>>>>>> demand >>>>>>>> for this particular phone. So, you have a case where people just >>>>>>>> purchased phone maybe in June or July, and here we are in September >>>>>>>> almost, traditional iPhone release time. If Apple releases a new SE >>>>>>>> now in sync with all of its other phone releases, I think the folks >>>>>>>> who purchased their phones recently are going to be upset. You know, >>>>>>>> Apple, why didn't you release this phone last fall with all of the >>>>>>>> others? Why did you wait over half a year, then release the phone, >>>>>>>> and right on top of it, release another one? >>>>>>>> That's why I figure people would not be happy. >>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 7:53 PM, Christopher Chaltain >>>>>>>>> <chalt...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Why are you saying people would be hopping mad if Apple came out >>>>>>>>> with an upgraded smaller form factor phone just six months after >>>>>>>>> the SE came out? >>>>>>>>> Are you talking about the same people who get mad when something >>>>>>>>> goes on sale after they paid full price for it? I never got this >>>>>>>>> reasoning since this would mean the only way to make everyone happy >>>>>>>>> is to never put something on sale. I'd assume anyone who knows >>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>> knows they release new phones in the fall, so I'd think anyone who >>>>>>>>> bought an SE would know that there would be a chance Apple might >>>>>>>>> include a smaller form factor phone in this fall's line up. I don't >>>>>>>>> think Apple would ever promise not to refresh a phone model any >>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>> frequently than once a year. I also don't see what anyone who >>>>>>>>> has an >>>>>>>>> SE would be missing out on if Apple upgraded the specs of the SE >>>>>>>>> this fall. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 26/08/16 11:42, Mary Otten wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Christine said she preferred, or at least liked the smaller >>>>>>>>>> screen. >>>>>>>>>> I can't imagine Apple introducing a new small screen model. a lot >>>>>>>>>> of people who just bought an iPhone SE are going to be hopping mad >>>>>>>>>> if they do. Not that making people mad has stopped Apple from >>>>>>>>>> doing >>>>>>>>>> things in the past. Smile. >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2016, at 9:38 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This may also depend on whether you want the larger screen, more >>>>>>>>>>> than likely, the iphone 7 will have a larger screen as the 6 >>>>>>>>>>> and 6 >>>>>>>>>>> plus do, not sure if Apple will have a newer SE version with the >>>>>>>>>>> iphone 7 specs, so if you want the smaller screen, the iphone SE >>>>>>>>>>> might be a good choice, should be interesting to see what Apple >>>>>>>>>>> introduces though. >>>>>>>>>>> Original message: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Christine, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Were I you, given the situation as you have described it, >>>>>>>>>>>> this is >>>>>>>>>>>> to say, you have access to an interim phone to use until the >>>>>>>>>>>> release of iPhone 7, I would recommend that you wait until >>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> 7 is released before using your upgrade privileges. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mark >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] >>>>>>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Christine Grassman >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2016 9:03 AM >>>>>>>>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Need opinions about waiting for iPhone 7 or getting SE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Is there any reason to wait a few weeks to use my upgrade >>>>>>>>>>>> toward an iPhone 7, based on what is known? My iPHone 6 was >>>>>>>>>>>> brutally victimized by a car backing up today, and I am now >>>>>>>>>>>> faced >>>>>>>>>>>> with using my upgrade for an SE, or using my daughter’s old 5C >>>>>>>>>>>> until the iPHone 7 comes out. I don’t want the hassle of syncing >>>>>>>>>>>> two new phones in rather quick succession, so I am trying to >>>>>>>>>>>> figure out whether to just get the SE (I like the smaller >>>>>>>>>>>> screen), or wait and see with the iPHone 7. >>>>>>>>>>>> From what I’m able to gather, the main features of interest >>>>>>>>>>>> involve improved camera, which I do not care about, and unless >>>>>>>>>>>> there are any amazing features or improvements, I figure I >>>>>>>>>>>> may as >>>>>>>>>>>> well wait for the ten-year anniversary for Apple to wow me. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In short: 1. 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