Weird. It worked #ow. Go figure. I just tried it with your message just now and 
everything worked fine.


Thanks,
Ari

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:54 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Did you have the thread expanded? Also, I just recently noticed a Focus lag 
> or something. Maybe it's a screen refresh lag rather than focus lag. The same 
> thing happened in a message. I was in a message, and my two finger flick up 
> started reading a whole different message. But then when I went back to try 
> to repeat the problem, it worked right on the same message. It's like the 
> screen hadn't refreshed right the first time or something.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:36 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> Richard, I'm not getting the behavior you describe. I just tried this in 
>> this message. I was on your message, and when I did a two-finger flick up, 
>> VO started reading Mary's message. Weird. I'm getting along with mail better 
>> than I was, which is a relief. I'm glad to see that the focus is jumped to 
>> the most recent unread message in a thread, so you don't have to go hunting 
>> for your place. I'm also liking the feature where you can put the oldest 
>> message in a thread at the top. This is behavior I'm used to from Gmail, and 
>> it feels a lot more natural to flick down to go to the next message in a 
>> thread rather than flicking up.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Ari
>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> When I flick down to a message and VO reads say the first couple lines, I 
>>> use the two finger flick up and it reads the body of the message. Then, I 
>>> touch with two fingers to pause it if I get interrupted, then touch with 
>>> two fingers again and reading continues, just like always.
>>> Now, if you have an iPad, apparently the reading is not so easy as Mary has 
>>> mentioned.
>>> But if you start reading with the two finger flick down, the two finger 
>>> touch pauses like always.
>>> HTH,
>>> Richard
>>> 
>>> 
>>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>  I agree with you about the focusing need a little jumpy here. I'm not 
>>>> sure what you mean by what happens if a message is more than a paragraph? 
>>>> It reads straight through. At least here. The only time I have issues with 
>>>> headers being read is on the iPad, which I have talked about under a 
>>>> different thread. One focus difference I have noticed, and this is 
>>>> consistent, if you have a message open and you hit delete, the next 
>>>> message opens and after you hear the subject line, if you decide you want 
>>>> to delete it, focus is no longer on the delete button. You have to find it 
>>>> again and double tap it. That's a little bit annoying, especially on the 
>>>> iPad where, at least for me, the delete button is harder to find. 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:54 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> This new messages thing in the rotor is going to take some time to get 
>>>>> used to. What happens if there's multiple paragraphs in a message? Also, 
>>>>> VO focus seems to be quite jumpy in mail. Maybe I'm doing something 
>>>>> wrong? Does anyone know if there's a way to skip the header information 
>>>>> in a message and go straight to the message text? I know the messages 
>>>>> rotor item makes VO start reading the message text from the beginning, at 
>>>>> least that's how it's been so far, but if I get interrupted while 
>>>>> reading, then lose my place, I want a way to get back to it quickly, and 
>>>>> not have to start reading from the beginning. Lol maybe I'm just being 
>>>>> cranky and not giving the new mail view enough of a chance, but it's such 
>>>>> a departure from the way it was previously. Also, I had the shock of my 
>>>>> life when all my folders showed up on the screen. I figured out that I 
>>>>> have to collaps mailboxes now.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Ari
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