Hi all,

I have a question about the threading feature in mail settings.

I have gone into these settings, and have threading on, newest message on top 
off.

When I am in the mail app, and come to a message thread, I flick up with one 
finger to get to the expand thread item and double tap on it.
Now, when I flick down with one finger, I would expect to hear the oldest 
message spoken.

However, I hear the newest message spoken.
It doesn’t seem to matter which way I have the order of messages sety in the 
mail settings.

I am wondering if anyone else is having this issue.

Any suggestions on how to remedy this?

Thanks.

Bob Hill

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 9:36 PM, englishride...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Richard, I'm not getting the behavior you describe. I just tried this in this 
> message. I was on your message, and when I did a two-finger flick up, VO 
> started reading Mary's message. Weird. I'm getting along with mail better 
> than I was, which is a relief. I'm glad to see that the focus is jumped to 
> the most recent unread message in a thread, so you don't have to go hunting 
> for your place. I'm also liking the feature where you can put the oldest 
> message in a thread at the top. This is behavior I'm used to from Gmail, and 
> it feels a lot more natural to flick down to go to the next message in a 
> thread rather than flicking up.
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Ari
> 
> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:19 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com 
> <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> When I flick down to a message and VO reads say the first couple lines, I 
>> use the two finger flick up and it reads the body of the message. Then, I 
>> touch with two fingers to pause it if I get interrupted, then touch with two 
>> fingers again and reading continues, just like always.
>> Now, if you have an iPad, apparently the reading is not so easy as Mary has 
>> mentioned.
>> But if you start reading with the two finger flick down, the two finger 
>> touch pauses like always.
>> HTH,
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> (Sent from my iPhone 5S)
>> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 4:31 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>>  I agree with you about the focusing need a little jumpy here. I'm not sure 
>>> what you mean by what happens if a message is more than a paragraph? It 
>>> reads straight through. At least here. The only time I have issues with 
>>> headers being read is on the iPad, which I have talked about under a 
>>> different thread. One focus difference I have noticed, and this is 
>>> consistent, if you have a message open and you hit delete, the next message 
>>> opens and after you hear the subject line, if you decide you want to delete 
>>> it, focus is no longer on the delete button. You have to find it again and 
>>> double tap it. That's a little bit annoying, especially on the iPad where, 
>>> at least for me, the delete button is harder to find. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 2:54 PM, englishride...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:englishride...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> This new messages thing in the rotor is going to take some time to get 
>>>> used to. What happens if there's multiple paragraphs in a message? Also, 
>>>> VO focus seems to be quite jumpy in mail. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? 
>>>> Does anyone know if there's a way to skip the header information in a 
>>>> message and go straight to the message text? I know the messages rotor 
>>>> item makes VO start reading the message text from the beginning, at least 
>>>> that's how it's been so far, but if I get interrupted while reading, then 
>>>> lose my place, I want a way to get back to it quickly, and not have to 
>>>> start reading from the beginning. Lol maybe I'm just being cranky and not 
>>>> giving the new mail view enough of a chance, but it's such a departure 
>>>> from the way it was previously. Also, I had the shock of my life when all 
>>>> my folders showed up on the screen. I figured out that I have to collaps 
>>>> mailboxes now.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Ari
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