Hi Todd, Well said. Sometimes, rather than new features, bugs should be fixed.
Sent from a Braille Sense ----- Original Message ----- From: Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> To: viphone@googlegroups.com Date: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:23 pm Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > > Sieghard, > > The app store, iTunes store, Phone, Mail, and settings are the ones that I > consider to remain. I did not say ALL should be "non-native" but those apps > that are absolutely useless, such as voice memos, stocks, should never be > native but non-native. That is where I stand for. > > It is simply that a lot of the apps are simply useless and should never have > been native in the first place. They missed the point. I was one of the > ones who spoke out loudly at Apple. They cannot expect everyone to have > their products. When they said it, I simply ignored and made a blunt > statement to them making them realize they are just wasting such efforts > making them native. That cannot be so. > > Meantime, I see still bugs there. Apple needs to do more than just release > new versions of the iOS. They need to learn to do more thorough diagnoses to > ensure the apps work correctly before releasing them. Think about it. > > Todd > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:55 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi Todd, > > The good news is that as of iOS 10 you can in fact delete native apps such as > Mail, Voice Memos, Stocks, Calculator and so on. There are still some which > are essentials to the operation of the phone which can't be deleted and that > of course makes sense. These are apps like the App Store, Settings and so on. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:23 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hello there, Sieghard, > > I have a Braille Sense U2 Mini, so I would have to find the correct commands > for that. > > As for that app Home, it is totally useless to me, and I have no need for it. > So I would have kicked that goofy (smile) app out for good. > > The only thing I abhor about Apple is that they tend to put many apps on all > products that are often useless and cannot be deleted completely due to them > being native apps. That really sucks! Yes, these folks at Apple Inc. are > missing something in a large way. > > Not just Apple but other companies do the same. I just do not understand how > these folks act like this. they like to show off by saying there are apps > you need but the opposite is true. > > It is just a real goof on them! > > Thank you, Sieghard, for the information concerning the Home app. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Sieghard Weitzel > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 2:11 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi Todd, > > Apple has come up with a standard for home automation devices. These are > things like connected thermostats, lights like the Philipps Hue, door locks, > automated sprinkler control systems, cameras, devices to open and close > curtains or blinds and so on. If you have any such devices and they support > Apple's Home Kit standard they will appear in the Home app. > > I don't have a braille display, but maybe you know what commands to use if I > tell you how I delete apps and if you have ever moved apps you are half way > there. First, if I swipe up or down on any app on any home screen, Voiceover > says "Arrange Apps". At that point you can swipe up or down again with one > finger and this will go back and forth between "Activate Item" or "Move" > followed by the name of the app. If you then double tap on "Activate Item" > you will be asked if you want to delete the app and you can confirm and it > will be deleted. > > > Regards, > Sieghard > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > Todd Patkus > Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2016 10:36 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: RE: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Chris, > > You mean that app is more for managing your personal doings? > > It is still on my iPhone now. How do one remove that Home app? Remember I > am deafblind so I am a strong Braille user. > > Thank you. > > Todd > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of > christopher hallsworth > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 12:30 AM > To: Viphone <viphone@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Home in iOS 10.1.1 > > Hi > > The "home" app is the hub for managing homekit devices. I simply removed it > in the very first, and I mean very first, non-public, beta of iOS 10, as I > have no homekit devices and was simply not interested. > > > > On 18 Nov 2016, at 04:09, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > To all: > > > > Many of you may know this, but wonder if any of y'all know exactly what the > > Home app that was appended to iOS 10.1.1 is for? 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