Hi Todd,

You wrote that you can see " arranging apps then activate". If you can get to 
"Activate" on your braille display you should just have to do whatever the 
braille keyboard command is for a double tap and it should ask then if you want 
to delete the app. 

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Todd Patkus
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 7:21 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: Braille commands for deleting app

Dani,

When I tried it, pressing dot 6, it said arranging apps then activate.  That is 
all I can see!

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Dani Pagador
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:16 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app

Whew. Then I guess I'm glad I didn't update to IOS10.

I'm using IOS9 and can delete apps fine. My speaker didn't recover very much 
from its lemon bar making experience--my volume is terribly decreased, so I'm 
having to struggle to hear when I don't have a h eadset plugged in. I can get 
access to the VO output using Braille.

And ... I would've thought if it was such a problem, Jonathan Mosen would've 
brought it up in his book on IOS10, (something I don't have, because I don't 
have the OS.)

Puzzled,
Dani

On 11/18/16, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Dani,
>
> Actually, there is really no way to do that!
>
> Apple Inc. lacks this in a large way!
>
> How can  person who is profoundly deaf and totally blind see what the 
> screen is showing or see where to find on the screen!
>
> Think about it.
>
> Todd
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dani Pagador
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 8:57 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Braille commands for deleting app
>
> Todd,
> You have a Braille display from Hims--I see your mail on theHims 
> Notetaker list. I have a BrailleEdge. The process for deleting apps 
> should be similar
>
> You can't do it just using the keyboard on the Braille display. You've 
> got to use a combination of the keyboard and VO gestures. But there 
> should be Braille feedback of everything VO says.
>
> 1) Navigate to the app you want to delete using the Dot1/4 with spacebar.
> When you get to the app
> 2) One-finger double-tap and hold on the app. VO should say, and 
> Braille should show"Moving [app name]."
> 3) Lift your finger and double-tap. You'll get a message asking 
> whether you want to delete the app. Navigate to the Delete button and 
> double-tap it.
> (You can use your finger or the cursor routing button
> here.)
> 4) Hit your Home button to get out of app editing mode.
>
> HTH,
> Dani
>
>
>
>
>
> .
>
>
>
> On 11/18/16, Todd Patkus <tpte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To all:
>>
>>
>>
>> At this time, I know there is no way for a strong Braille user to 
>> delete apps from his iOS.  No problem for hearing-blind who are 
>> speech users.
>> That
>> is not fair.
>>
>>
>>
>> We Braille users have every right just as the blind do.
>>
>>
>>
>> Who may be able to tell me how to kill (delete) any unwanted apps?
>>
>>
>>
>> A Braille Sense U2 Mini is what I have here, so make sure you have 
>> the right commands for that task.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>>
>>
>> Todd
>>
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