I agree.

Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!

> On Sep 18, 2018, at 1:15 PM, <pdlloga...@gmail.com> <pdlloga...@gmail.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Then just shut up about it .. and go get a Samsung or whatever.  I would ask 
> the mods to stop this thread.  The point of this list is to try and help one 
> another.  This isn't doing that.  I'm tired of people complaining about 
> Apple...they like every other company are in business to make money.  None of 
> us have been force to buy there products .. or stay with them after we bought 
> them.  If we decide they don't meet our needs anymore, then find a product 
> that makes the best sense for you.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mário 
> Navarro
> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:18 PM
> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> My good friend.
> All this is uncheck.
> 
> I always do this every time I use a new iPhone.
>  or even a complete restore
> I know all the tips to save battery on an iPhone.
> 
> I did my update through itunes.
> It was very fast without any kind of issue.
> It took 30 minutes to download the file and install it.
> My net is very strong...
> That's why I'm sure the issues I run into the phone are not because of the 
> installation...
> I had made a complete  reset a month ago. Very recent...
> 
> And that's why I'm not going to make another one. If I did, it would have to 
> be with backup...
> And if I do a backup of IOS 12, everything will be the same...
> My IPhone, it was perfect with iOS 10.3.3 and I just did an update on top. 
> This iOS 12 update has no issue because of iOS 10.
> It's all from iOS 12...
> And I don't want to have more work with a complete  reset.
> Because I know that will not solve the issues of accessibility and those of 
> the battery...
> But if I'm forced to do it, I will.
> 
> Or I'll just walk away from Apple once and for all.
> And I think this is really the best decision I'm going to make.
> 
> I'm sick of Apple's politics, and all the negative things they've been giving 
> us over the years.
> Thank you for the kind words you've been having with me.
> 
> thank you.
> cheers.
> 
> Às 15:12 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
>> Mario,
>> 
>> Please humour me and try the reset network settings, don't dismiss it 
>> outright and do make sure you go through settings especially look at 
>> background app refresh and location settings and turn off stuff you don't 
>> think you need. Sometimes during an update stuff you may have turned off a 
>> long time ago and almost forgotten about does get turned on again. Make sure 
>> you look at the "system" section in location settings, most things there can 
>> be turned off.
>> I am sure there are some bugs, but I have also used iOS for 9 years and I 
>> have participated in many beta cycles. I am on a beta tester list and here 
>> quite a good number of experienced people have used iOS 12 for almost 3 
>> months now. These are often the same people who in the past have put out the 
>> warnings about serious bugs when a new iOS version was first released and 
>> all I can say is that iOS 12 is very stabil, it runs efficiently and makes 
>> older devices snappier and there are very few bugs at this time when 
>> compared to iOS 11, iOS 10 and earlier. I can't remember if it was iOS 10 or 
>> iOS 9 where at release there was that horrible bug where Voiceover would 
>> sort of go away when a phone call was received (don't recall the details), 
>> but it was bad and iOS 11 was bad even for sighted people.
>> Just go through the reset network settings and if that doesn't help by all 
>> means, do a complete reset. I know it's frustrating, but every so often 
>> actually doing a complete reset and setting up as a new device can have very 
>> good results even though it takes quite a few hours to get everything back 
>> to where you had it before. I did this after I had a new battery put into my 
>> 6S Plus, that was still before I joined the iOS 12 beta program and my 
>> battery life improved dramatically. iOS is fairly good, but whether it's iOS 
>> or Windows (I don't have experience with Mac and Android, but I'm sure it's 
>> not much different), all systems do seem to get bogged down over the years 
>> and at some point a complete fresh reinstall is often your best option.
>> 
>> Take care,
>> Sieghard
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Mário Navarro
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:53 AM
>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi Sieghard.
>> 
>> Yes friend, I did all that...
>> 
>> And most importantly, my iPhone SE just had the iOS 10 factory...
>> I had never installed any more experiences with other beta IOS.
>> As for my battery, That's all I need to do go to Settings > General > Reset 
>> and select to "Reset Network I doubt very much it works...
>> Sieghard. just remember one thing.
>> It's still too early for people to start saying that iOS 12 didn't give them 
>> issues.
>> These people are still going to have to bite their tongues a lot.
>> We all know this repeats every year.
>> I also had a lot of hopes in this IOS 12 system, and I thought I wasn't 
>> going to get the issues I have. Bad experience...
>> IOS 12 may be a little better than the versions in the past, but they can't 
>> say they don't have issues because it's still too early to affirm that...
>> I'm sure many here in the group will still go to the Applevis site, report 
>> issues that they will find with time...
>> Can you understand me Sieghard?
>>   I'm just talking about accessibility bugs and the battery...
>> I'm not talking about a lack of performance.
>> That's what happens every year, my friend.
>> I know very well my iPhone SE, and I know well what it is capable...
>> But I'm going to do what you ask only with the battery.
>> Because with the rest, I'm sure it's bugs.
>> And some people here in the group who criticized and tried to humiliate me, 
>> will bite the tongue and remember many times of me.
>> thank you Sieghard
>> cheers.
>> 
>> 
>> Às 13:43 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu:
>>> Hi Mario,
>>> 
>>> As somebody else suggested, have you completely turned off your phone and 
>>> turned it back on after upgrading?
>>> As for your battery, you should go to Settings > General > Reset and select 
>>> to "Reset Network Settigs.
>>> You will have to reconnect to your WiFi after the phone reboots, i.e. enter 
>>> your WiFi password, but often any strange battery issues will disappear 
>>> after a Reset Network Settings.
>>> I am sorry you have this experience, but I have been running the iOS 12 
>>> public beta since the first one came out at the end of June and it's been 
>>> an amazingly smooth beta program, iOS 12 has been the most stabil version 
>>> of iOS for many years and there must be something strange going on in your 
>>> case because I have heard no bad reports, even Applevis and people like 
>>> Jonathan Mosen who make a living testing and reporting on these things have 
>>> no warnings this year.
>>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus by the way, so it's not like I have one of the 
>>> latest iPhones, it is very much like your SE, same processor and all that 
>>> and it runs better than it ever has with this version of iOS.
>>> I would definitely try the Reset Network Settings and, if this doesn't 
>>> help, do a complete Reset and reinstall iOS 12. Lots of people who are 
>>> knowledgeable about these things do actually advise that people should wait 
>>> a few days or a week before upgrading, on day 1 the Apple servers are 
>>> extremely overloaded and if any issues happen they are more likely to 
>>> happen then. Also, did you remove all apps from the app switcher and reboot 
>>> your phone prior to upgrading?
>>> I hope you can sort it out, otherwise I'm sure Mark would grant you 
>>> permission to post a for sale ad for your SE on the list and somebody would 
>>> be happy to snatchit up so you can be happy ever after with Android, just 
>>> make sure you ask Mark first before you post it for sale.
>>> 
>>> Good luck,
>>> Sieghard
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf 
>>> Of Mário Navarro
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:42 AM
>>> To: iphone group <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>> Subject: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi all.
>>> 
>>> iOS 12, I am completely sorry to have updated.
>>> I had IOS  10.3.3 on my iPhone SE and it was almost perfect...
>>> 
>>> But of course after we waited many months to see some bugs  fixed
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Everything worked very well.
>>> Now with iOS 12 I didn't win anything special..
>>> Contrary:
>>> The battery sucks too much, there is a huge bug with the voice 
>>> dictation. Voice over does not announce the feedback of dictation.
>>> I have also come across other issues in various aspects.
>>> on my iPhone SE, with IOS 10.3.3  the battery was perfect.
>>> 
>>> Now with IOS 12, it's been shit.
>>> And worst of all, I can't no more  back to 10.3.3...
>>> IOS 11 is also a piece of shit...
>>> 
>>> Apple is a piece of shit
>>> Apple I hope that one day you will die forever..
>>> All you want is money, and only give us  shit.
>>> This is what happens when you keep Believing on Apple jerks like Tim 
>>> Cook...
>>> Sorry guys, but I am extremely furious...
>>> Time to go back to Google Android forever...
>>> bye rotten Apple.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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