I agree. Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> On Sep 18, 2018, at 1:15 PM, <pdlloga...@gmail.com> <pdlloga...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Then just shut up about it .. and go get a Samsung or whatever. I would ask > the mods to stop this thread. The point of this list is to try and help one > another. This isn't doing that. I'm tired of people complaining about > Apple...they like every other company are in business to make money. None of > us have been force to buy there products .. or stay with them after we bought > them. If we decide they don't meet our needs anymore, then find a product > that makes the best sense for you. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Mário > Navarro > Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:18 PM > To: viphone@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... > > > > > My good friend. > All this is uncheck. > > I always do this every time I use a new iPhone. > or even a complete restore > I know all the tips to save battery on an iPhone. > > I did my update through itunes. > It was very fast without any kind of issue. > It took 30 minutes to download the file and install it. > My net is very strong... > That's why I'm sure the issues I run into the phone are not because of the > installation... > I had made a complete reset a month ago. Very recent... > > And that's why I'm not going to make another one. If I did, it would have to > be with backup... > And if I do a backup of IOS 12, everything will be the same... > My IPhone, it was perfect with iOS 10.3.3 and I just did an update on top. > This iOS 12 update has no issue because of iOS 10. > It's all from iOS 12... > And I don't want to have more work with a complete reset. > Because I know that will not solve the issues of accessibility and those of > the battery... > But if I'm forced to do it, I will. > > Or I'll just walk away from Apple once and for all. > And I think this is really the best decision I'm going to make. > > I'm sick of Apple's politics, and all the negative things they've been giving > us over the years. > Thank you for the kind words you've been having with me. > > thank you. > cheers. > > Às 15:12 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu: >> Mario, >> >> Please humour me and try the reset network settings, don't dismiss it >> outright and do make sure you go through settings especially look at >> background app refresh and location settings and turn off stuff you don't >> think you need. Sometimes during an update stuff you may have turned off a >> long time ago and almost forgotten about does get turned on again. Make sure >> you look at the "system" section in location settings, most things there can >> be turned off. >> I am sure there are some bugs, but I have also used iOS for 9 years and I >> have participated in many beta cycles. I am on a beta tester list and here >> quite a good number of experienced people have used iOS 12 for almost 3 >> months now. These are often the same people who in the past have put out the >> warnings about serious bugs when a new iOS version was first released and >> all I can say is that iOS 12 is very stabil, it runs efficiently and makes >> older devices snappier and there are very few bugs at this time when >> compared to iOS 11, iOS 10 and earlier. I can't remember if it was iOS 10 or >> iOS 9 where at release there was that horrible bug where Voiceover would >> sort of go away when a phone call was received (don't recall the details), >> but it was bad and iOS 11 was bad even for sighted people. >> Just go through the reset network settings and if that doesn't help by all >> means, do a complete reset. I know it's frustrating, but every so often >> actually doing a complete reset and setting up as a new device can have very >> good results even though it takes quite a few hours to get everything back >> to where you had it before. I did this after I had a new battery put into my >> 6S Plus, that was still before I joined the iOS 12 beta program and my >> battery life improved dramatically. iOS is fairly good, but whether it's iOS >> or Windows (I don't have experience with Mac and Android, but I'm sure it's >> not much different), all systems do seem to get bogged down over the years >> and at some point a complete fresh reinstall is often your best option. >> >> Take care, >> Sieghard >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of >> Mário Navarro >> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:53 AM >> To: viphone@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... >> >> >> >> >> Hi Sieghard. >> >> Yes friend, I did all that... >> >> And most importantly, my iPhone SE just had the iOS 10 factory... >> I had never installed any more experiences with other beta IOS. >> As for my battery, That's all I need to do go to Settings > General > Reset >> and select to "Reset Network I doubt very much it works... >> Sieghard. just remember one thing. >> It's still too early for people to start saying that iOS 12 didn't give them >> issues. >> These people are still going to have to bite their tongues a lot. >> We all know this repeats every year. >> I also had a lot of hopes in this IOS 12 system, and I thought I wasn't >> going to get the issues I have. Bad experience... >> IOS 12 may be a little better than the versions in the past, but they can't >> say they don't have issues because it's still too early to affirm that... >> I'm sure many here in the group will still go to the Applevis site, report >> issues that they will find with time... >> Can you understand me Sieghard? >> I'm just talking about accessibility bugs and the battery... >> I'm not talking about a lack of performance. >> That's what happens every year, my friend. >> I know very well my iPhone SE, and I know well what it is capable... >> But I'm going to do what you ask only with the battery. >> Because with the rest, I'm sure it's bugs. >> And some people here in the group who criticized and tried to humiliate me, >> will bite the tongue and remember many times of me. >> thank you Sieghard >> cheers. >> >> >> Às 13:43 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu: >>> Hi Mario, >>> >>> As somebody else suggested, have you completely turned off your phone and >>> turned it back on after upgrading? >>> As for your battery, you should go to Settings > General > Reset and select >>> to "Reset Network Settigs. >>> You will have to reconnect to your WiFi after the phone reboots, i.e. enter >>> your WiFi password, but often any strange battery issues will disappear >>> after a Reset Network Settings. >>> I am sorry you have this experience, but I have been running the iOS 12 >>> public beta since the first one came out at the end of June and it's been >>> an amazingly smooth beta program, iOS 12 has been the most stabil version >>> of iOS for many years and there must be something strange going on in your >>> case because I have heard no bad reports, even Applevis and people like >>> Jonathan Mosen who make a living testing and reporting on these things have >>> no warnings this year. >>> I have an iPhone 6S Plus by the way, so it's not like I have one of the >>> latest iPhones, it is very much like your SE, same processor and all that >>> and it runs better than it ever has with this version of iOS. >>> I would definitely try the Reset Network Settings and, if this doesn't >>> help, do a complete Reset and reinstall iOS 12. Lots of people who are >>> knowledgeable about these things do actually advise that people should wait >>> a few days or a week before upgrading, on day 1 the Apple servers are >>> extremely overloaded and if any issues happen they are more likely to >>> happen then. Also, did you remove all apps from the app switcher and reboot >>> your phone prior to upgrading? >>> I hope you can sort it out, otherwise I'm sure Mark would grant you >>> permission to post a for sale ad for your SE on the list and somebody would >>> be happy to snatchit up so you can be happy ever after with Android, just >>> make sure you ask Mark first before you post it for sale. >>> >>> Good luck, >>> Sieghard >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf >>> Of Mário Navarro >>> Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:42 AM >>> To: iphone group <viphone@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Hi all. >>> >>> iOS 12, I am completely sorry to have updated. >>> I had IOS 10.3.3 on my iPhone SE and it was almost perfect... >>> >>> But of course after we waited many months to see some bugs fixed >>> >>> >>> Everything worked very well. >>> Now with iOS 12 I didn't win anything special.. >>> Contrary: >>> The battery sucks too much, there is a huge bug with the voice >>> dictation. Voice over does not announce the feedback of dictation. >>> I have also come across other issues in various aspects. >>> on my iPhone SE, with IOS 10.3.3 the battery was perfect. >>> >>> Now with IOS 12, it's been shit. >>> And worst of all, I can't no more back to 10.3.3... >>> IOS 11 is also a piece of shit... >>> >>> Apple is a piece of shit >>> Apple I hope that one day you will die forever.. >>> All you want is money, and only give us shit. >>> This is what happens when you keep Believing on Apple jerks like Tim >>> Cook... >>> Sorry guys, but I am extremely furious... >>> Time to go back to Google Android forever... >>> bye rotten Apple. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> -- >> A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção... >> >> >> --- >> Este e-mail foi verificado em termos de vírus pelo software antivírus Avast. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> > > -- > A acção pode nem sempre ser felicidade, mas não há felicidade sem acção... > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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