Hi Joney,
Excellent info. Thank you for posting it to the list. Lynda From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Joney Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 12:10 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... Something I haven’t seen mentioned here but have seen reading articles about iOS 12, which I’ve had no problem with, is that for the first 24 to 48 hours, your battery will be majorly draining. Reason? They have two index all of your files again. So your phone is working in the background as well as doing what you wanted to. That’s why the Wbow train. After that first couple of days, it should get much better. Give it a little time and see. Joney talk2o...@gmail.com "If God can bring you to it, He will lead you through it." On Sep 18, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm not commenting on Mario's language but he is obviously very frustrated. I haven't read all the replies to this thread but I did read most of them and I did not catch that anyone else has upgraded to iOS 12 from iOS 10.3 with an IPhone SE which Mario said he had done. I do recall many posts and frustrations with battery impact when iOS 11 came out as well as an article or two or more about things to do to tweak settings in order to improve battery life. I know we can jump from older iOS versions to the latest but I expect one's experience when doing so might be quite different from one who is upgrading to the latest iOS from one version back. These devices are getting more and more complicated and I expect getting them fine-tuned can be an evolutionary process over many iterations of iOS. Skipping that process by jumping ahead several iOS versions could cause a much different user experience for someone who is upgrading. Alan Lemly -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Sieghard Weitzel Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 9:12 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... Mario, Please humour me and try the reset network settings, don't dismiss it outright and do make sure you go through settings especially look at background app refresh and location settings and turn off stuff you don't think you need. Sometimes during an update stuff you may have turned off a long time ago and almost forgotten about does get turned on again. Make sure you look at the "system" section in location settings, most things there can be turned off. I am sure there are some bugs, but I have also used iOS for 9 years and I have participated in many beta cycles. I am on a beta tester list and here quite a good number of experienced people have used iOS 12 for almost 3 months now. These are often the same people who in the past have put out the warnings about serious bugs when a new iOS version was first released and all I can say is that iOS 12 is very stabil, it runs efficiently and makes older devices snappier and there are very few bugs at this time when compared to iOS 11, iOS 10 and earlier. I can't remember if it was iOS 10 or iOS 9 where at release there was that horrible bug where Voiceover would sort of go away when a phone call was received (don't recall the details), but it was bad and iOS 11 was bad even for sighted people. Just go through the reset network settings and if that doesn't help by all means, do a complete reset. I know it's frustrating, but every so often actually doing a complete reset and setting up as a new device can have very good results even though it takes quite a few hours to get everything back to where you had it before. I did this after I had a new battery put into my 6S Plus, that was still before I joined the iOS 12 beta program and my battery life improved dramatically. iOS is fairly good, but whether it's iOS or Windows (I don't have experience with Mac and Android, but I'm sure it's not much different), all systems do seem to get bogged down over the years and at some point a complete fresh reinstall is often your best option. Take care, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M rio Navarro Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 6:53 AM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... Hi Sieghard. Yes friend, I did all that... And most importantly, my iPhone SE just had the iOS 10 factory... I had never installed any more experiences with other beta IOS. As for my battery, That's all I need to do go to Settings > General > Reset and select to "Reset Network I doubt very much it works... Sieghard. just remember one thing. It's still too early for people to start saying that iOS 12 didn't give them issues. These people are still going to have to bite their tongues a lot. We all know this repeats every year. I also had a lot of hopes in this IOS 12 system, and I thought I wasn't going to get the issues I have. Bad experience... IOS 12 may be a little better than the versions in the past, but they can't say they don't have issues because it's still too early to affirm that... I'm sure many here in the group will still go to the Applevis site, report issues that they will find with time... Can you understand me Sieghard? I'm just talking about accessibility bugs and the battery... I'm not talking about a lack of performance. That's what happens every year, my friend. I know very well my iPhone SE, and I know well what it is capable... But I'm going to do what you ask only with the battery. Because with the rest, I'm sure it's bugs. And some people here in the group who criticized and tried to humiliate me, will bite the tongue and remember many times of me. thank you Sieghard cheers. s 13:43 de 18/09/2018, Sieghard Weitzel escreveu: Hi Mario, As somebody else suggested, have you completely turned off your phone and turned it back on after upgrading? As for your battery, you should go to Settings > General > Reset and select to "Reset Network Settigs. You will have to reconnect to your WiFi after the phone reboots, i.e. enter your WiFi password, but often any strange battery issues will disappear after a Reset Network Settings. I am sorry you have this experience, but I have been running the iOS 12 public beta since the first one came out at the end of June and it's been an amazingly smooth beta program, iOS 12 has been the most stabil version of iOS for many years and there must be something strange going on in your case because I have heard no bad reports, even Applevis and people like Jonathan Mosen who make a living testing and reporting on these things have no warnings this year. I have an iPhone 6S Plus by the way, so it's not like I have one of the latest iPhones, it is very much like your SE, same processor and all that and it runs better than it ever has with this version of iOS. I would definitely try the Reset Network Settings and, if this doesn't help, do a complete Reset and reinstall iOS 12. Lots of people who are knowledgeable about these things do actually advise that people should wait a few days or a week before upgrading, on day 1 the Apple servers are extremely overloaded and if any issues happen they are more likely to happen then. Also, did you remove all apps from the app switcher and reboot your phone prior to upgrading? I hope you can sort it out, otherwise I'm sure Mark would grant you permission to post a for sale ad for your SE on the list and somebody would be happy to snatchit up so you can be happy ever after with Android, just make sure you ask Mark first before you post it for sale. Good luck, Sieghard -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M rio Navarro Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2018 1:42 AM To: iphone group <viphone@googlegroups.com> Subject: IOS 12 sucks, apple sucks... Hi all. iOS 12, I am completely sorry to have updated. I had IOS 10.3.3 on my iPhone SE and it was almost perfect... But of course after we waited many months to see some bugs fixed Everything worked very well. Now with iOS 12 I didn't win anything special.. Contrary: The battery sucks too much, there is a huge bug with the voice dictation. Voice over does not announce the feedback of dictation. I have also come across other issues in various aspects. on my iPhone SE, with IOS 10.3.3 the battery was perfect. Now with IOS 12, it's been shit. And worst of all, I can't no more back to 10.3.3... IOS 11 is also a piece of shit... Apple is a piece of shit Apple I hope that one day you will die forever.. All you want is money, and only give us shit. This is what happens when you keep Believing on Apple jerks like Tim Cook... Sorry guys, but I am extremely furious... 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