I hear what you’re saying. But the  knFB reader was never equivalent to the 
blindness specific OCR apps which cost about $1000, not 1400, at least not in 
the US. Maybe it was 1400 Canadian? Those were quite expensive, still are. But 
they have a whole bunch of features that the iPhone app from KNFB Reader has 
never offered. 


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> On Oct 14, 2018, at 8:47 AM, Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca> wrote:
> 
> And just to remind all of you that when KNFB Reader first came out and for 
> some years afterwards it was considered the best OCR app out there, a 
> game-changer and many of us were happy to pay $100 for an app which 
> previously when it was available for okia cost $1,500. There have always been 
> other OCR apps, but none was as user-friendly and worked as well for a blind 
> person as KNFB Reader until the Seeing AI app came along. Now KNFB Reader is 
> talked down because Microsoft, a multi-billion Dollar organisation has spend 
> what probably is a few hundred thousand Dollars on the development of Seeing 
> AI and they are giving it away for free. They probably write this off as 
> charity or something but I'm always surprised how short people's memories 
> sometime sare and how sometimes one app or developer is talked about like the 
> second coming until they do something which doesn't suit some people and then 
> it's a 180 degree reversal in attitudes.
> 
> Regards,
> Sieghard
> 
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> Anthony Vece
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> Subject: Re: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
> towards
> 
> Richard;
> I agree completely with your assessment.
> It’s just another example with KNFB Reader of how we are over charged.
> 
> Sent from my Verizon iPhone X!!!
> 
>> On Oct 13, 2018, at 1:23 PM, Richard Turner <richardturne...@outlook.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Frankly, KNFB Reader isn't worth the $100 US it costs and would certainly 
>> not be worth the 1884.70 in Mexico.
>> 
>> The only advantages it has over Seeing AI is that you can do multiple pages 
>> and save them as one document.
>> I suppose also that you only have to be about 12 inches or so above a 
>> document with KNFB Reader, and while you can manually take a picture at that 
>> height with Seeing AI, it won't do its automatic scan until you get about 18 
>> inches or so above the page.
>> 
>> Seeing AI costs nothing.  
>> 
>> Just my 37 centavos worth.
>> 
>> Richard
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> “Definition of an expert: An ex is a has-been and a spirt is a drip under 
>> pressure.” – Bruce U. Utah Phillips
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>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
>> Gerardo Corripio
>> Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2018 9:28 AM
>> To: iPhone List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Some blindness aps and games devs, disappoint in their attitudes 
>> towards
>> 
>> As some of you guys might already know, I’m the person responsible for the 
>> “Ciberaprendiendo Tutorials and Tech” pocast which airs Tuesays at 
>> https://nam03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eiberoamerica.com&amp;data=02%7C01%7C%7Cbf67824455024fd7c25508d63128e70e%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636750449068993521&amp;sdata=FjiOiH8pvsZ5nqJFKH8wQZg4QjxZj0vOsRVEpImzrj8%3D&amp;reserved=0,
>>  and whenever I find an app that I personally feel would benefit the blind 
>> (especially those here in Latin America and other Spanish-speaking blind 
>> folks) I send an EMail to the devs of these aps, with generally interest in 
>> me featuring their apps in the before-mentioned podcast, which has an 
>> average listenership of between 800-1600 monthly, depending on the apps or 
>> services featured. However I’ve encountered two or 3 blindness devs whose 
>> attitudes leave to be desired. It’s as if ey all seem to think that we blind 
>> folks live in the same economic situation, in which usd$1.99 independent of 
>> where we are, is the same; here in Mexico, for instance, a USD$2 app or game 
>> would be almost Mxn$40. Yes I know I could buy these games. As long as I 
>> have the funds for these, but or more-expensive aps? Among the promo codes 
>> I’d like to get to record “Ciberaprendiendo” episodes on are KNFB Reader, 
>> and the Knight Commander recently-released game, which I could probably buy, 
>> but not until I have enough funds for.kn
>> 
>> Gera
>> Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
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