i don't think we were objecting to discussion about the product, but Jonathan's
position as an executive for the company makes it advertising. One thing I
like about this list is the idea that consumers discuss their experiences with
products. I would hate to start seeing ads from Humanware, Freedom Scientific,
etc. about their products. There are other venues available for advertising.
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Turner
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 7:28 AM
Subject: Re: An Aria Update
Marie N,
I find your post offensive. I also disagree with Mark. Aira is a service I
choose not to subscribe to personally, but see nothing wrong with its promotion
on this list since this list is supposed to be about educating visually
impaired iPhone users about things that are helpful using their phone.
No one complains when the subscription service for Apple Music is discussed.
No one complains when TuneIn Pro Premium subscriptions are discussed.
I think Jonathan deserves an apology for being singled out for this exclusion.
If this policy is not changed, I too will be unsubscribing.
Richard
The most common way people give up their power is by thinking they don't have
any." -- Alice Walker
On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:12 AM, Marie N. <scribbl...@comcast.net> wrote:
This post is offensive and totally uncalled for. The message was, in my
opinion, a promotion of Aira.
-----Original Message----- From: Reg Sullivan
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 6:42 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aria Update
One of my favorite lines is "you chose to cut off the hand that feeds you"
Mark, I am so surprised that as one entrusted in a leadership position of a
list that educates it's followers on Iphone related apps that make life easier
for those of us who choose to subscribe to them that you would feel threatened
by Jonathan's good intentions. Jonathan made his career educating all of us
on new ideas and concepts through his pod casts and charged pennies for it.
Promoting Aira in this way will lead to broader acceptance of the product
among the blindness community and greater value for all of us in the long run.
It's time for you to resign your post as moderator of this list and time
for those of us wanting open communication without barriers to move over to the
BlindPhone list!
Thank you to everyone who contributed to my tech development with your
posts to this list.
Regards....Reg
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Tom Rash
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 8:14 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Jonathan:
I've been on this list as long as you have. I appreciate and have learned
much from you and other contributors to the list.
Computers and iPhones are great. They even come wih delete keys.
I'll be joining the blind phones list.
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of
Jonathan Mosen
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 6:43 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
Hi Mark and everyone. Given this new policy, I'll be unsubscribing after
around 9 years on the group, but I want to express my disappointment about this
change.
During Cara's excellent and even-handed leadership of this group, we had
many occasions where app developers would engage with us about their apps,
especially when those apps were blindness specific.
Since this particular app was one that has come up here on multiple
occasions, with some mentioning it as one of their top apps of 2018, it seemed
appropriate, on-topic, and of value to interested members to let them know
about recent developments, especially a free trial. This has been welcomed on
other groups.
It's a difficult and false distinction to separate the app from the
service, when the app is the vehicle for that service.
Further, the service itself would in the past have been considered
on-topic, because one uses it on an iPhone and it is blindness specific.
Anyway, I've learned a great deal over the last 9 years, so thanks to
everyone for that.
Should you wish to be on a group where app developers and users can freely
interact, you're welcome to join my BlindPhones list, which covers both iOS and
Android. If an app developer wishes to take time to engage, they are welcomed
with open arms.
blindphones+subscr...@groups.io.
And of course as has been already pointed out in this thread, there's an
Aira group too.
Thanks all.
Jonathan Mosen
Mosen Consulting
Blindness technology eBooks, audiobooks and training
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-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of M.
Taylor
Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2019 2:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: An Aira Update
I see your point, Andy. Be that as it may, any new service being offered
to our community, is always appreciated.
However, and this is to everyone, the iOS app only, is to be discussed on
this list. Any questions regarding the service, itself, to be taken off-list,
immediately.
Thank you all for observing this policy.
Moderator Mark
-----Original Message-----
From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Andy Baracco
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 3:10 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
I didn't know that ads were allowed on this list.
Andy
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From: "James English" <james13engl...@gmail.com>
To: <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2019 2:35 PM
Subject: Re: An Aira Update
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On 1/26/19, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
Hi all. Since the middle of October, I've been Aira's VP of Explorer
communications. Since Aira has an iOS app, I thought the following info
may
be of interest to some.
For those not familiar with Aira, we provide real-tine audio description
of
anything visual, provided by security-vetted, trained professionals. You
can
use it with your iPhone on its own, or if you perform any tasks where
it's
useful to have both of your hands free, we offer optional smart glasses.
The Aira app is free, and it's free to use in an increasing number of
locations, or for an increasing number of tasks. We also offer
subscription
plans, much like cell phone plans, where you can use it for any task,
anywhere.
If you've been curious about Aira and have wanted to take it for a spin
in
your own environment, we've released a free 7-Day Trial of our full paid
service. This offer means that anyone with a free account can try
anytime
access to Aira's professional agents whenever it suits them - just like
a
paying subscriber.
The 7-Day Trial provides 30 minutes to try Aira's service over a period
of
seven days. Some of that time will be used for setting up account
preferences and asking questions about the service, but the majority of
that
time is free to use for any task. It's a great opportunity for people
new
to
Aira to experience why so many use it as a must-have tool for enhancing
everyday life.
Got some mail that needs sorting? Need a professional agent to connect
to
your computer to help with an inaccessible site? Or just want to
research
nearby restaurants or stores? Well, now you can, as a free user and from
the
comfort of your home.
For all the details including a list of frequently asked questions, head
on
over to
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Faira.io%2Ffree-trial&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccf363a93f0564a9e69a508d68469ce1b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636841987289948239&sdata=H4bnSxWPL5c7zlXRMIWmgmuobojbOhRUkE3GBi5fBgw%3D&reserved=0
Second, Aira has recently released a comprehensive series of training
modules available for streaming online, or for download in DAISY and
MP3.
You can find it at:
https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Faira.io%2Ftraining&data=02%7C01%7C%7Ccf363a93f0564a9e69a508d68469ce1b%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636841987289948239&sdata=D9lSvAINOzW0%2Fx0f7Ey3RL51dmr39jon0R1VsqreVHo%3D&reserved=0.
This is a good way to learn about Aira even if
you're not signed up yet but are curious. Because this is such a new
class
of technology, many people not only want to know how to use Aira, but
how
it
might fit into their toolbox of blindness skills and apps.
Finally, we've just launched a podcast, called Airacast.
It's packed with news, interviews, tips, tricks, listener comments and
more.
Subscribe to Airacast now from all the places most people get their
podcasts, including iTunes/Apple Podcasts, Google Play Music, Stitcher,
TuneIn and more. Spotify is coming soon, iHeart Radio in a couple of
months
and an Alexa skill will be released eventually.
Many people enjoy hearing podcasts through HumanWare's Victor Reader
Stream,
so of course it's listed there too.
Should you wish to enter the RSS feed manually into your podcast client
right away, it is:
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Search for Airacast in your podcast app of choice, or Here's an Apple
podcasts link for you.
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All the best.
Jonathan
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