It’s a bit funny, but when I went to the top of the page and then tabbed Jaws 
said “dialogue” and then tabbing to the USA button (it only has Europ or USA) 
worked. You can try this link, it may get you past it:

Lucia Phone<http://www.luciaphone.com/>

Seems like this is not yet available because it says “coming soon”. No pricing 
is given and here is my two cents worth:
Unless somebody can’t use a touch screen phone like the iPhone because of 
multiple disabilities, maybe motor skill issues which despite the 
accommodations the iPhone has can’t be overcome, going back to a phone like 
this Lucia to me is sort of like going back from a modern PC to using a 
typewriter. As many pointed out, you have to learn the concepts and gestures 
for the iPhone, but Larry and Carolyn are only two examples of people in their 
70’s and I think Carolyn is already 80, who apparently successfully managed to 
learn how to use the iPhone with Voiceover. Giving up after a day or two is not 
advisable.

Regards,
Sieghard

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Marie N.
Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2019 8:18 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do I unsub from this list

I went to this web site with both Chrome and FireFox using Jaws on a Win 10 
computer and can’t get past the “select region”. Interesting?


From: Richard Turner
Sent: Saturday, June 8, 2019 9:59 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: how do I unsub from this list

Joshua,
There is a new flip phone that talks, reads missed calls, you can text the old 
fashioned way, and it will read the text messages you receive and it has lots 
of high quality voices on it; its called the Lucia phone.
www.luciaphone.com<http://www.luciaphone.com>

You should know that you can set your iPhone so that you do not have to enter 
your password for free apps, and as has been said, you do not have to use a 
passcode.
But, flat screen phones are not for everyone.
Best of luck,
Richard

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On Jun 8, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Joshua Hendrickson <louv...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi to all.  How do I unsubscribe from this list.  I never should have
gotten an iPhone in the first place.  I don't want to take the time to
learn how to type on the stupid keyboard on the screen.  I hate the
idea of having to type in my apple ID when I want to download an app.
Stupid security.  My flip phone was so much easier.  I could just turn
it on and it would power up and away I would go.  No having to type in
my stupid pass code to unlock my phone.  I never should have let that
article I read about seeing AI influence my decision to get an iPhone.
On Monday I'm contacting apple to see about getting it returned and
most of my money back.  With apple care and the cost of my phone, I
spent almost $1000.  I could have bought a great desktop computer for
that much money and it has a real keyboard on it.
--
Joshua Hendrickson

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