Julian. I agree with you on developers not testing their apps before major 
updates to IOS come out. understand about apps like Nearby Explorer is that 
they are developed by Blindness organizations with funding from grants and 
other resources that are very limited, so not everyone can test their apps 
beforehand. I’ve also never had any success with reporting any kind of issue 
through Apple. The main purpose of my post was to find any information on who 
to contact at APH. Apparently, the issue has been reported to APH, and we can 
only hope it gets resolved at some point.

 

Just my thoughts.

 

Chris

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Juliantheir apps for compatibility before major updates roll out. However, one 
thing people have to

. 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 12:42 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

Hello all,

 

A couple of responses here. If we were not supposed to report such issues to 
Apple via Feedback, why do they provide categories to do so? I agree that 
reporting to the developer is just as important which I did do on the list but, 
I don't see the harm in also reporting it to Apple.

 

I agree with the sentiment that developers have had access to this beta for 
quite some time now and I am both surprised and annoyed to see this happen. 
It's not just developers of blindness apps either, last pass which is a widely 
used main stream app also suffers from the same problem. Shame on these 
developers. That is after all the point of issuing these developer betas early 
in the first place.

 

Sent from my iPhone





On Sep 25, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Davy Cuppens <davycupp...@gmail.com 
<mailto:davycupp...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

haha thats the most ridiculous explanation ever heard let’s pretend I am a 
developer but I have no testing devices, poor developer then.

Davy 

 

From: Richard Turner <mailto:richardturne...@outlook.com>  

Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 4:53 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

Same happened with MBraille.  The developer said he didn’t have a device he 
could put the beta on.  So, his devices must be only production devices … now 
that the release versions are out there I hope all these developers will get to 
work.

 

 

 

Richard

 

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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Sieghard Weitzel
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2019 7:21 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: RE: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

I am surprised they didn’t test this, after all, Apple gives developers access 
to upcoming versions many weeks in advance just so they can start to test their 
apps with said version and to implement any changes or fixes.

The same applies to Flicktype, apparently the developer said he was waiting for 
iOS 13 to come out so he had a Stabil platform for testing, but to me that is a 
pretty pure excuse, any developer had access to iOS 13 for over 3 months now.

 

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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 1:30 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

That’s why, it can be prudent, to wait a while before updating. Especially, if 
you are dependent on an app.

 

Dave.

 

 

From: Julian <mailto:mrc1...@gmail.com>  

Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 8:28 PM

To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  

Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

Hi Chris,

 

As it happens, shortly after I sent a reply to your message, I saw the 
following on the Nearby Explorer list. They are aware of the problem and are 
working on a fix. See below for the actual message that was sent out on the 
Nearby Explorer list:

 

Today Apple released its newest operating system, iOS 13.1. In testing, APH 
discovered these new updates will cause issues with the paid version of Nearby 
Explorer. We are working on a fix, but at this time one is not imminent.

If you wish to continue using the paid version of Nearby Explorer, we recommend 
you wait to upgrade to iOS 13.1 at this time. If you do choose to download the 
upgrade, you may still use the free version of Nearby Explorer, Nearby Explorer 
Online, which is not affected by the updates.

We will keep you updated as we continue to work for a solution, and apologize 
for any inconvenience this will create.

 

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

On Sep 24, 2019, at 12:24 PM, jsab...@cinci.rr.com 
<mailto:jsab...@cinci.rr.com>  wrote:

 

Hi Julian. Reporting something like this to Apple Feedback is not effective. 
I’m actually looking for a developer contact at APH who produces the app. I’ve 
found that generally just reporting an issue as Feedback in the App Store is 
never effective.

 

Thanks Much,

 

Chris

 

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>  
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> > On Behalf Of 
Julian
Sent: Tuesday, September 24, 2019 3:17 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
Subject: Re: Nearby Explorer crashes in IOS 13.1

 

Hi,

 

I've been having the same problems with Nearby Explorer as well as several 
other apps ever since the iOS 13.1 beta cycle started. I have been reporting it 
to Apple over and over again via the Feedback app with every update iOS 13.1 up 
through today and still not fixed.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

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<mailto:jsab...@cinci.rr.com>  wrote:



Hello all. I just upgraded my iPhone to IOS 13.1 and can no longer use Nearby 
Explorer. The app just crashes. I uninstalled and re-installed the app twice 
and redownloaded the onboard maps. Is there a person at APH that handles 
support for this app who I can contact? Still using my old iPhone 6S.

 

Thanks Much,

 

Chris

 

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