Hi,
Encrypted back-ups on iTunes include native  message app messages. iCloud 
back-ups also include messages if selected. Since iOS 12, messages are not 
selected by default. This must be selected via Settings, Apple ID, iCloud and 
insure messages is enabled.

Should there be any errors on iPhone or iOS device for that matter in the 
future, you can connect device to a computer that has  been used with the 
device if back-up has been performed on computer.

Feliciano

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From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Sieghard 
Weitzel
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.


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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
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Hi Vicki,

My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

Vicki

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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
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Hi Vicki,

You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.

I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

Best,
Anna




On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.

First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?

Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?

The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.

I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.

Hope this all makes sense.

Thanks.

Vicki


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