And even if you access your Apple account from a PC you can choose to “trust” 
the PC or browser the first time you use it and afterwards it will not ask for 
2-factor authentication on that computer/browser combination.
A lot of people hate 2-factor authentication, but as Anna said, it’s definitely 
the way to go with respect to security in today’s world of ransomware attacks 
and such.

From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:49 PM
To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

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Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

Hi Vicki,

I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.

Best,
Anna





On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:

I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

Vicki

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From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Vicki 
W.
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message that it 
cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.
I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox or my 
computer from my phone?
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: Sieghard Weitzel<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
To: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include text 
messages.
From: viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Anna 
Dresner
Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
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<viphone@googlegroups.com<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the same 
information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would be backed 
up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the way I 
have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but it's my 
understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
Vicki
----- Original Message -----
From: Anna Dresner<mailto:wadres...@att.net>
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Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
Hi Vicki,
You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating system to 
a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were running an older 
operating system.
I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and either 
way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to Settings, choose 
the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make sure iCloud 
Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 hours or so, 
when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up 
Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.
Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud backup. It 
will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
Best,
Anna
On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. 
<vwher...@comcast.net<mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini IPAD II 
to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated beyond IOS 12 
to a newer phone with IOS 13.
First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both Windows 7 and 
10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II or older 
phone?
Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be trying 
to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not certain which 
version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I currently have the 
latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older phone.
I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions with older 
IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones with IOS 13. How is 
this problem worked around when you can't update the older IPad or phone, but 
yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or the phone you are 
transferring from has a later IOS version.
Hope this all makes sense.
Thanks.
Vicki
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