Hi Vicki,

No. Once it's set up, you only have to enter a code occasionally, such as if 
you get a new device.

Best,
Anna




> On Oct 15, 2019, at 6:31 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I 
> use my phone?
>  
> Vicki
>  
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>> 
>> Hi Vicki,
>> 
>> I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
>> than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Anna
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
>>> using 2 factor authentication on my phone.
>>>  
>>> I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.
>>>  
>>> Vicki
>>>  
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>> 
>>>> Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?
>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>> Vicki W.
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>> Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
>>>> that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor 
>>>> authentication.
>>>> I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
>>>> or my computer from my phone?
>>>> Vicki
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>> From: Sieghard Weitzel <mailto:siegh...@live.ca>
>>>>> To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
>>>>> Subject: RE: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
>>>>> text messages.
>>>>> From: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com> 
>>>>> <viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Anna Dresner
>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com 
>>>>> <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>> My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly the 
>>>>> same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages 
>>>>> would be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, 
>>>>> though.
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> Anna
>>>>>> On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>> Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With the 
>>>>>> way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, 
>>>>>> but it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?
>>>>>> Vicki
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>>>> From: Anna Dresner <mailto:wadres...@att.net>
>>>>>>> To: VIPhone Mailing List <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: ITunes Backups
>>>>>>> Hi Vicki,
>>>>>>> You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older operating 
>>>>>>> system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
>>>>>>> running an older operating system.
>>>>>>> I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, and 
>>>>>>> either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
>>>>>>> Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, 
>>>>>>> and make sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen 
>>>>>>> automatically every 24 hours or so, when your device is on and 
>>>>>>> connected to wi-Fi and power. There's also a Back Up Now button you can 
>>>>>>> use to back up the device at any time.
>>>>>>> Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
>>>>>>> backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.
>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>> Anna
>>>>>>>> On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net 
>>>>>>>> <mailto:vwher...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a mini 
>>>>>>>> IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be 
>>>>>>>> updated beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.
>>>>>>>> First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
>>>>>>>> Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.
>>>>>>>> Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad II 
>>>>>>>> or older phone?
>>>>>>>> Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone?
>>>>>>>> The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I will be 
>>>>>>>> trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
>>>>>>>> certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, 
>>>>>>>> but I currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and 
>>>>>>>> my older phone. 
>>>>>>>> I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS versions 
>>>>>>>> with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones 
>>>>>>>> with IOS 13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update 
>>>>>>>> the older IPad or phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a 
>>>>>>>> matching version or the phone you are transferring from has a later 
>>>>>>>> IOS version.
>>>>>>>> Hope this all makes sense.
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>> Vicki
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