I'm not exactly sure how it works. Do I have to get beyond it every time I use 
my phone?

Vicki

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Anna Dresner 
  To: VIPhone Mailing List 
  Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 4:27 PM
  Subject: Re: ITunes Backups


  Hi Vicki,


  I would suggest setting up two-factor authentication. It's a lot more secure 
than previous methods, and it's not intrusive once it's set up.


  Best,
  Anna








    On Oct 15, 2019, at 1:39 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:


    I'm looking for a way to back up everything, including my messages, without 
using 2 factor authentication on my phone.

    I was hoping that ITunes backup might do the trick since ICloud does not.

    Vicki

      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sieghard Weitzel
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 9:15 AM
      Subject: RE: ITunes Backups


      Is there a reason why you can’t do an encrypted iTunes backup?

      From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Vicki W.
      Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:08 AM
      To: viphone@googlegroups.com
      Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

      Mine doesn't, at least with ICloud. Every time I try I get the message 
that it cannot back up messages because I'm not using 2 factor authentication.

      I'm wondering if there is a way to back up or copy my messages to dropbox 
or my computer from my phone?

      Vicki

        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Sieghard Weitzel
        To: viphone@googlegroups.com
        Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 9:31 PM
        Subject: RE: ITunes Backups

        Encrypted iTunes backups and I believe iCloud backups also do include 
text messages.


        From: viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of 
Anna Dresner
        Sent: Monday, October 14, 2019 3:32 PM
        To: VIPhone Mailing List <viphone@googlegroups.com>
        Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

        Hi Vicki,

        My understanding is that an encrypted iTunes backup includes exactly 
the same information as an iCloud backup, so I don't think your messages would 
be backed up. I would suggest checking with Apple to be sure, though.

        Best,
        Anna





          On Oct 14, 2019, at 5:13 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> wrote:

          Another question I have is concerning backing up my messages. With 
the way I have my security set up, I can't back up my messages with ICloud, but 
it's my understanding that I can if I use ITunes. Is that true?

          Vicki

            ----- Original Message ----- 
            From: Anna Dresner
            To: VIPhone Mailing List
            Sent: Sunday, October 13, 2019 4:54 PM
            Subject: Re: ITunes Backups

            Hi Vicki,

            You shouldn't have trouble restoring a backup from an older 
operating system to a newer one. The problem would be if your new device were 
running an older operating system.

            I would set up iCloud backups and restore from that. It's simpler, 
and either way, the apps are downloaded from Apple's servers. Just go to 
Settings, choose the Apple ID setting near the top that has your name, and make 
sure iCloud Backup is on. Then a backup will happen automatically every 24 
hours or so, when your device is on and connected to wi-Fi and power. There's 
also a Back Up Now button you can use to back up the device at any time.

            Then when you get your new device, choose to restore from an iCloud 
backup. It will give you the choice of using your most recent backup.

            Best,
            Anna





              On Oct 12, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Vicki W. <vwher...@comcast.net> 
wrote:

              I have a somewhat detailed question on backing up and restoring a 
mini IPAD II to a Mini IPad 5 and or an older IPhone which cannot be updated 
beyond IOS 12 to a newer phone with IOS 13.

              First of all, what version of ITunes is best to use? I have both 
Windows 7 and 10 with JAWS 2019 or 2020 beta.

              Next, what are the steps for making a backup copy of my mini IPad 
II or older phone?

              Third, how can I transfer this to the new Mini IPad 5 or newer 
phone?

              The problem, I believe, is going to show up in the transfer. I 
will be trying to put a different IOS version from one to the other. I'm not 
certain which version will be on the new Mini IPad 5 or newer phone, but I 
currently have the latest update of 12.4 on the Mini Ipad II and my older 
phone. 

              I know that people are having problems transferring the IOS 
versions with older IPhones that cannot be updated to IOS 13 to newer phones 
with IOS 13. How is this problem worked around when you can't update the older 
IPad or phone, but yet cannot transfer unless you have a matching version or 
the phone you are transferring from has a later IOS version.

              Hope this all makes sense.

              Thanks.

              Vicki


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