Hello Robin, I am running iOS 13.7 on my beloved 8 Plus (smile).
Mark -----Original Message----- From: viphone@googlegroups.com [mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Robin Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 7:52 PM To: viphone@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: Caution against following advice to reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility JustWonderin: Which iteration of Apple's iOS is ON Your (Beloved) 8+? At 05:00 PM 9/19/2020, you wrote: >Hello Cristobal, > >I have not yet updated my beloved 8 Plus to iOS >14 and do not plan on doing so anytime soon. > >However, I have updated my iPad to iPad OS 14 >and am not experiencing any of the focus issues, reported on the list. > >Question: Does disabling Scene Description mode >resolve the VoiceOver focus problem? > >I ask because doing so on my iPad made VoiceOver perform as expected. > >Mark > > >From: viphone@googlegroups.com >[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Cristóbal Muñoz >Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:35 PM >To: viphone@googlegroups.com >Subject: RE: Caution against following advice to >reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility > >That… sucks. >The VO jumpiness and getting stuck is something >I too have reported to Apple Accessibility. I >believe others are experiencing it too. It’s >actually a major pain and feels like a major bug. >I get it when trying to share something via the >share sheet, When trying to fill in log in >credentials with 1Password and randomly here and >there throughout iOS. It also seems to be >present in SeeingAI. Pretty much breaking that functionality. >In my case, I reported it via email and the >accessibility team asked me to provide a screen >recording of the issue as well as a system log >during the time I did the screen recording which I did. >There are some other bugs I’m dealing with in >regards to text editing and VO being over chatty >now (saying toolbar on the toolbar now), but >this jumpiness and getting stuck on buttons/edit fields etc. really is a pain. >Good >luck and hopefully you can find some sort of >resolution instead of having to wait for an open Apple store. > >Cristóbal > >From: viphone@googlegroups.com ><viphone@googlegroups.com> On Behalf Of Alan Lemly >Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2020 4:27 PM >To: 'VIPhone Email List' <viphone@googlegroups.com> >Subject: Caution against following advice to >reset settings when reporting iOS 14 issues to Apple Accessibility > >Hello List, > >I want to caution others from avoiding the >problem I'm experiencing after calling Apple >Accessibility to report an issue I was having >with iOS 14. I was checking out the setting >under my name/Apple ID and when I opened Media >and purchases, I noticed that when swiping >through the various controls to check out the >screen that focus kept jumping back to the Apple >ID control in the upper left of the screen. This >was some major jumping and occurred on several >controls on that screen. Trying to be a good >citizen, I called Apple Accessibility to report >the issue. I spoke with someone named Willard >who was nice enough but who suggested I reset >all my settings to factory defaults. I argued >with him that I had a lot of custom settings and >wasn't comfortable doing that but he said it was >the first suggestion they gave after getting >contacted about problems following an iOS >upgrade. Against my better judgment, I reset all >my settings. Here are some of the things that >were reset that will prevent me from ever doing that again: > >1. All my Apple cash credit cards were removed. >2. My Touch ID was reset. >3. The accessibility setting for Voiceover with the home button was reset. >4. All my custom keyboards were removed. >5. My keyboard settings were changed from Touch typing to standard typing. >6. My default ringtone was reset. >7. The background color of my home screen was >reset from a sea green to something that appears >to be sort of a red orange color. >8. Other custom settings I had made were reset that I can't recall. > >I was able to puzzle out and reset most of the >settings but could never figure out how to reset >the background color of my home screen. I looked >under display and screen settings and under >Wallpaper but found nothing. I then decided to >restore my encrypted backup I made with iTunes >before upgrading to iOS 14. That took over an >hour and now all my phone does is that the Apple >logo appears on a black screen as it used to >when doing a hard reset but it appears for a few >seconds and then disappears and then reappears >again. The phone which is an SE 2020 will not >restart and is no longer recognized when I plug >it to the lightning cable and open iTunes. > >So the moral of this story is if you have an iOS >14 issue to report to Apple Accessibility, don't >let them convince you to reset your settings. >I've never had a problem with restoration of an >iTunes encrypted backup before but I guess my >phone is out of commission until I get to an Apple Store. > >I did upgrade iTunes to its latest version >before backing up before upgrading to iOS 14. If >anyone has any recommendations to try, I'd truly >welcome them because I need my phone before I'll >be able to get to an Apple Store. > >Alan Lemly > >-- >The following information is important for all members of the V iPhone list. > >If you have any questions or concerns about the >running of this list, or if you feel that a >member's post is inappropriate, please contact >the owners or moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > >Your V iPhone list moderator is Mark Taylor. >Mark can be reached at: mk...@ucla.edu. 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