I have this exact same problem on my XR. Still present in iOS 14.0.1.
Also, if I want to backspace and delete a bunch of characters, what
I’ll do is double tap and keep one finger on the delete button and
split tap with another finger as many times as I need with VO
announcing each character that’s being deleted. I’ve found this at
least for me a quick way to batch delete characters or a word or two
than selecting the text and then deleting or double tapping the hell
out of the delete key etc.
Anyway, now when I try doing that in iOS 14, every time I split tap,
the cursor is placed at the beginning of the edit field and text. This
has pretty much broken the ability to backspace multiple times via
this method.
Another issue that I don’t think others have mentioned is that now, VO
can’t maintain focus on the dictate button. Whenever I try to gain
focus on the microphone to dictate something anywhere in the OS, VO
flickers and studders and the haptic feedback I get on the iPhone is
like it’s doing the jitterbug. I now have to use the two finger double
tap on an edit field to initiate dictation. So now, dictating has
mostly become a two handed action instead of one simple one handed
action. Super annoying.
I too sent Apple accessibility a screen recording as well as a
diagnostics log at their request.
They said that they’re aware of it, but come on.
Regarding the VO focus thing. Yes, it’s all over the place. I can’t
use the 1Password option to autofill log in credentials if say I have
to select from a list of options as VO gets stuck on either the cancel
button or the edit field. The built-in dictionary feature is also
broken as VO can’t get past the done button when you look up a word.
And on and on.
Cristóbal
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <viphone@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf
Of *Sieghard Weitzel
*Sent:* Friday, September 25, 2020 8:00 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem how I
solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems
For me the Reset did certainly not resolve the focus issues on the
Today screen or how when you swipe left from the top of the Inbox or
message list you get stuck on the search box etc. I initially did the
reset because I have another issue on my iPhone 8 where when I tap on
any edit field and Voiceover says "text field is editing,, characters,
insertion mode at start" this text is repeated with every letter I press.
Here is an example, let's say I open a message in the Messages app and
I want to reply to a text. I double tap on the edit field and
Voiceover says:
Message, text field is editing, iMessage, characters, insertion mode
at start
So I'm now in editing mode, Voiceover tells me it's an iMessage and I
know my rotor is set to characters and I'm at the start of the field
which of course is empty at first.
Let's say I want to start with "Hello", so now I type an "H", here is
what I hear:
Message, text field is editing, H, characters, insertion mode at end.
Then I type the next letter, the "e" in Hello and I hear
Message, text field is editing, He, characters, insertion mode at end.
Now I type the first L and Voiceover says:
Message, text field is editing, Hel, characters, insertion mode at end.
After I type the last letter, the "o" it will say it all over again
now speaking the entire word Hello in the middle and as soon as I
press the space it will repeat it again all over and then I start with
the next word and so on. Even if I accidently type a wrong letter, it
will repeat it all when I press the delete key, for example, if I had
typed an "r" instead of the "e" in Hello it would say:
Message, text field is editing, Hr, characters, insertion mode at end.
If I then press delete to get rid of the r it would repeat but again
only saying H and as you can see this is very annoying. I had
initially asked Richard if he had noticed anything like that, but
since I did also not read anything on Applevis about it and apparently
nobody elese has the problem, it seems to be unique to me. I already
sent this to Apple including the screen recording I did and they
unfortunately also have no idea.
I use the American femal SIRI voice, but I switched to Samantha to see
if it made a difference and it does not. It seemed at first that it
was gone after the Reset all settings, but either I tried it in a
place where it didn't happen or it came back, because now I am getting
this in virtually all edit fields.
Interestingly enough this does not happen if I turn on my Bluetooth
keyboard and type, if I did this in the same Message field where I
previously experienced this while typing, it would not happen with a
Bluetooth keyboard.
It's a very bizar and I fear very difficult item to figure out for
Apple. I even removed my glass screen protector because I thought
maybe it wasn't on good any more and there was someweird touch
feedback happening.
Best regards,
Sieghard
*From:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> *On
Behalf Of *Gerardo Corripio
*Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 7:49 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
*Subject:* Re: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem how I
solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems
speaking of voiceover bugs and resetting to default settings, I’ve a
spanish-speaking blind friend who is a Beta Tester, and way back since
Beta2 when he had VoiceOver issues (specially focus ones), he did a
Restore like the one you guys are talking about, and bye bye issues!
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE (2nd Generation) de Telcel
El 24 sep 2020, a la(s) 9:46 a.m., Alan Lemly <wale...@gmail.com
<mailto:wale...@gmail.com>> escribió:
Hi Sieghard,
I'm not going to argue that resetting one's settings after a full
reset can't be done but the amount of time involved will be a
function of one's memory or documentation of custom settings which
I suspect few have. I believe I had reset most of mine accept for
the background wallpaper color which was reset to what appeared to
be an orange color. I could not figure out how to get the sea
green color I previously had back. The bigger issue is identifying
the benefit of resetting all your settings. I know James said it
resolved most of his issues but it certainly didn't resolve the
one I reported to Apple Accessibility. And I can't say I was
noticing any difference in responsiveness of my SE 2020 after the
reset so the cost of the reset in my case was a lot greater than
any benefit received.
Alan
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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> on
behalf of Sieghard Weitzel <siegh...@live.ca
<mailto:siegh...@live.ca>>
*Sent:* Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:12:07 AM
*To:* viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>>
*Subject:* RE: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem
how I solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems
Hi Alan,
I don't think people should be that terribly afraid of resetting
all settings, but of course you have to assume that this does
exactly what it says, it will reset "all settings" to factory default.
If you actually take a moment to read what it says before youc
onfirm, you would see this:
This will reset all settings.
No data or media will be deleted.
After you confirm you are furthermore told that it will erase any
payment cards on file and since passcodes and any Touch Id or Face
Id entries are also settings they will also be deleted and after
the phone reboots there will be no passcode, you will have to
again set one up and redo your Touch or Face Id authentication.
I actually did this also on Sunday and it took me maybe half an
hour or 45 minutes to first of all reconnect to WiFi and rename my
phone, then to set up a passcode and Touch Id, then to add my two
credit cards and to a large extend the time was spend going
through a bunch of settings like Background App Refresh,
Keyboards, Privacy/location services etc. and putting them back to
what I had/wanted. Of course that also included switching my main
voice back to American female SIRI, adding a German voice and so on.
Apart from that it was not such a big deal and I previously chose
to erase all settings and content and to start from scratch
without restoring from a backup and that was truly a lot of work
since I basically redownloaded all my apps again and set up
everything from scratch.
Resetting all settings also reset my ringtone and other sounds to
factory default, but since I didn't erase all data and content my
custom ringtones and alert tones were all still there and it took
me maybe 5 minutes to set my custom tones up again, go into the
individual Mail accounts I have to set up the tones I want for
them etc.
Best regards,
Sieghard
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<viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>> On
Behalf Of Alan Lemly
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 8:40 PM
To: viphone@googlegroups.com <mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>
Subject: RE: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem how
I solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems
James,
I'm glad resetting all your settings corrected most of your iOS 14
issues. I'll caution others from doing that because when Apple
Accessibility had me reset my settings in connection with an issue
I was reporting, not only did doing so not affect the issue but
all of my custom settings were reset to factory defaults. This was
such an inconvenience that I attempted to get my settings back by
restoring an iTunes encrypted backup which failed and hung
requiring me to restore my iPhone SE 2020 to brand new factory
defaults. Fortunately, after doing this, I was able to restore my
iTunes encrypted backup but I spent about 12 hours on Saturday
messing with the phone.
Alan Lemly
-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com
<mailto:viphone@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of James Lockwood
Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:46 PM
To: IPhone Google Group
Subject: How I solved most of my voiceover iOS 14 problem how I
solved most of my voiceover iOS 3 team problems
Earlier today I posted a big list of stuff that was going wrong
with voiceover. This is on iOS 14 and an iPhone 11 promax. Tonight
I reset all settings but did not erase all data. The problems went
away. I don�t know what it was� What setting I had screwed up.
Hopefully it does not come back. Hopefully it does not come back.
To reset all your settings go to General in settings all the way
to the bottom reset in settings all the way to the bottom reset
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